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Literary?

I'm reading The Occult Roots of NAZISM - Secret Aryan Cults and their Influence on Nazi Ideology. Quite interesting, I'll post on it in detail elsewhere. It is older - 1992, but reinforcing some current topics on the origins of Nazi ideology I'm ALSO reading by Domenico Losurdo Heidegger and The Ideology of War.

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The secret of the golden flower, translated by Richard Wilhelm with commentary by Carl Jung. There are copies available online I believe, one could glance at, but the book is worth having.
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You know NASA bombed the Moon this month?



http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601124&sid=ajW2OloS8Ohk

Here is a related story from 50 YEARS AGO.

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/24161/24161-h/24161-h.htm

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psikeyhackr wrote:
You know NASA bombed the Moon this month?



http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601124&sid=ajW2OloS8Ohk

Here is a related story from 50 YEARS AGO.

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/24161/24161-h/24161-h.htm

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Least of worries now.
It is Lord Monckton and the World Federation of Earth (UN) versus the member states.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/10/30/monckton-on-glenn-beck-video-now-available/
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"Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand.

50+ pages in and I still haven't figured out who the fuck John Galt is.

Over 1,000 pages (varies with edition and font size), I got turned off after page 350, felt asleep then and returned it to the library. How long does it take for the Intellectual to make an A4 page size point?


I'm reading so I can write an essay on it for a scholarship. I got to get it all done by the end of summer, I think.


Did you finish it?

I actually liked Rand's initial, shorter, books - Anthem, We The Living. I tried to become a Randian when I was younger, but found no real interest in her stuff. Very shallow philosophically, but a good storyteller.

I couldnt heft either The Fountainhead or Atlas Shrugged long enough to get anywhere. The profit to loss ratio of learning over time invested just wasnt there. I DID get a copy of Atlas Shrugged on tape. That was kind of fun for a while. Didn't finish it though. The whole John Galt thing became a kind of "Where's Waldo" treasure hunt that went no where for me. Dont take that as a critique, just didnt really appeal to me.

The Fountainhead movie was great, only because I fantasise about Trish Neal, with or without riding crop ....

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Sorry, I didn't see that you commented on this until now. I stopped at the 200's or something, when I realized that reading this horrible book was not worth any of my time or money. It's the same straw-man arguments again and again to absurdity. I mean, come on. As if A (to us) = A (to the world outside the senses) is any less irrational than metaphysics. Also, Rand was very altruistic for a self-styled "objectivist". Writing books and all? She should of kept all of her ideas to herself, if she wanted to be consistent. All in all, she's no better than any other religious nutcase.

Recently I've started reading Human, All Too Human by Nietzsche. It's beautiful in its destructiveness.
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Life's too short for that claptrap, go out get laid is more fun.
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carldiesturmer wrote:
psikeyhackr wrote:
You know NASA bombed the Moon this month?
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601124&sid=ajW2OloS8Ohk

Here is a related story from 50 YEARS AGO.

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/24161/24161-h/24161-h.htm

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Least of worries now.
It is Lord Monckton and the World Federation of Earth (UN) versus the member states.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/10/30/monckton-on-glenn-beck-video-now-available/


I wasn't saying it was something to worry about I just thought it was interesting that NASA was looking for water on the Moon 50 years after a short SF story involving the subject.

The story was published 10 years and ONE month before the Moon landing in 1969.

The title of the story is ONE month before NASA bombed the Moon 50 years later.

You may now play the theme from The Twilight Zone.

On the global warming issue most people are too idiotic about any kind of science and the politicians just talk bullshit. Today's kids are just going to be stuck on a fucked up planet in 20 or 30 years. Our so called educators don't have enough brains to teach science to most kids. Watch STAR WARS, learn science from that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3s2p05OAmU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIBaUpwC0ls

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7zN2Na7bTQ

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The first and best 2/3rds of Harry Harrison's

The Deathworld Trilogy are available in Project Gutenberg.

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/28346/28346-h/28346-h.htm

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/30964/30964-h/30964-h.htm

The 3rd one is a decent story but not particularly thought provoking.

I presume it will turn up eventually but the 2nd one is the best.

It says something about the information hiding that obviously goes on in this society but you don't know about that when you are 10 years old. Then you think adults know what they are about.

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I have never said anything about the Vorkosigan series by Lois McMaster Bujold in this thread.

Here is a review:

http://www.lunch.com/reviews/UserReview-Vorkosigan_Saga-1436309-17529-Review_of_Vorkosigan_series_by_Lois_McMaster.html

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I just made an interesting discovery which I have not been able to find information about on the net so I get to provide the world with some new old information.

The 1954 movie GOG was derived from the novel The Brain by Alexander Blade.



Alexander Blade was a recycled pseudonym that was used by many writers but The Brain was actually written by Heinrich Hauser. I don't know how long ago I first saw GOG but I didn't think much of it. The novel is much better but it is obvious that a lot of elements from the book were inserted into the movie. Gog and Magog were the names of robots and they were used to kill in both stories.

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/32498/32498-h/32498-h.htm

The movie may be public domain also.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2657298926082009883#

http://classicscifi.blogspot.com/2008/02/gog.html

The book is from 1948 and the movie 1954.

I like this book better than Neuromancer (1984). It is obvious that Gibson didn't know anything about computers and he really made no attempt to portray the evolution of machine consciousness.

I just remembered and noticed a modern connection to the movie. There is a scene in Gog similar to an event in the ST:The Next Generation episode Home Soil where a laser drill attacks Data. A woman was attacked with a solar mirror which she eventually broke. Maybe Trek stole that or maybe it was an original idea.
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I love Retro Geek Stuff Psy... Laughing
Dorky yet cool.
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Sorry, I didn't see that you commented on this until now. I stopped at the 200's or something, when I realized that reading this horrible book was not worth any of my time or money. It's the same straw-man arguments again and again to absurdity. I mean, come on. As if A (to us) = A (to the world outside the senses) is any less irrational than metaphysics. Also, Rand was very altruistic for a self-styled "objectivist". Writing books and all? She should of kept all of her ideas to herself, if she wanted to be consistent. All in all, she's no better than any other religious nutcase.

Recently I've started reading Human, All Too Human by Nietzsche. It's beautiful in its destructiveness.

It is called Intellectual Masturbation something like Hegel's writings or Marx's Grundisse (Grounds).

At least it is a relief to the stale left wing clap trap and its pinko precursor themes and variations. Hegelianism is all about the power of the collectives to determine society and the way individuals should live accordingly!
As if it were actual people!

I am reading Terminator Seeds by F William Engdhal, all about GMOs, more practical and relevant to the oil, margarine and food stuff we all eat.
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I just stumbled across an interesting book. Charles Sheffield, a scientist who wrote science fiction, created a science book aimed at wannabe sci-fi writers to help them writhe hard SF.

Borderlands of Science by Charles Sheffield
Copyright ゥ 1999

http://www.baen.com/chapters/borders_i.htm

The first six chapters are free on the net. I have finished reading those and I will have to get the book. It is very interesting for its broad view of science. It comes across as more interesting and amusing than most science books I have seen. It has lots of historical information about scientific discoveries and is really quite educational. Just don't get turned off by the claimed intent of the book.

I have read a few of his SF books.

The Web Between the Worlds
Brother to Dragons
Higher Education
Cold as Ice
Dark as Day

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The Year When Stardust Fell, by Raymond F. Jones
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/33660/33660-h/33660-h.htm

1958 SF, the reason for this story is the attitude about science which I don't see much in science fiction today. 1958 was the year after Sputnik. Much of today's SF is like a mixture of Dune and Harry Potter.

I didn't have a problem with Ian M. Banks' Player of Games. It was somewhat interesting since I was a chess addict in high school. But is had nothing but sci-fi tropes no serious demonstration of science. Not even as good as some Star Trek.

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I haven't posted in a while but I look in here more often than I post.

I just read some sci-fi that is merely old not ANCIENT.

I read Hyperion which I had avoided for years and then found that it and Fall of Hyperion are really one book split in two. So I was kind of annoyed when I finished book 1 and then had what looked like to bad choices.

Don't read Fall of Hyperion and be left wondering what happened. Or risk going through book 2 and waste more time.

I have finished #2 and am thinking about it.

http://www.lunch.com/reviews/d/UserReview-Hyperion_Cantos-1483540-205980-Prepare_to_See_the_Wizard_Dan_Simmons.html

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I've gone back to ancient. But who needs to red.

The Jacket (or Star Rover) by Jack London

http://librivox.org/the-jacket-or-star-rover-by-jack-london/
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I haven't posted in a while but I look in here more often than I post.

I just read some sci-fi that is merely old not ANCIENT.

I read Hyperion which I had avoided for years and then found that it and Fall of Hyperion are really one book split in two. So I was kind of annoyed when I finished book 1 and then had what looked like to bad choices.

Don't read Fall of Hyperion and be left wondering what happened. Or risk going through book 2 and waste more time.

I have finished #2 and am thinking about it.

http://www.lunch.com/reviews/d/UserReview-Hyperion_Cantos-1483540-205980-Prepare_to_See_the_Wizard_Dan_Simmons.html

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I know you posted this ages ago, but I've been urged constantly by a friend to read Hyperion, which he says is good.

Personally, I'm working on "Fiasco" by Stanislaw Lem, probably my favorite author. He's a rather brilliant (was* a rather brilliant, since sadly he has gone beyond the Rim) Polish scifi author who somewhat was without a peer. His stories were genius, brilliant, and breathtakingly fresh and insightful.
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I know you posted this ages ago, but I've been urged constantly by a friend to read Hyperion, which he says is good.


It is so odd that we do not have psychological profiles for readers and books by now so it is easy for people to figure out which books they are likely to like.

For me The Mote in God's Eye by Niven and Pournelle is way better than Hyperion which I regard as more fantasy/horror then science fiction.

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I know you posted this ages ago, but I've been urged constantly by a friend to read Hyperion, which he says is good.


It is so odd that we do not have psychological profiles for readers and books by now so it is easy for people to figure out which books they are likely to like.

For me The Mote in God's Eye by Niven and Pournelle is way better than Hyperion which I regard as more fantasy/horror then science fiction.

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I own/have read Mote. I really liked it; I had that same friend read it, and he liked it too. I heard there is a sequel to Mote, and I haven't been enthusiastic to go buy it. I read a synopsis of what the sequel is about, and quite frankly it sounded like the story and the whole point of the first book is ruined in the sequel.

Having match-ups for books is actually a really good idea. In fact, if someone were to give that sort of idea to Barnes & Noble or Amazon for online book browsing, where that person can save their answers to some "questionnaire" type of format, they could get people to be directed to titles that they might really like. Amazon already has a system in place where, if you browse or buy certain things, you get recommendations for other stuff. But having a kind of psych match-up sounds like a smart idea.

Did you consider Mote or Hyperion to be horror/sci fi? There was some pretty freaky stuff in Mote that could've been considered borderline horror.
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Bulaba Jones wrote:
Did you consider Mote or Hyperion to be horror/sci fi? There was some pretty freaky stuff in Mote that could've been considered borderline horror.


Actually I read the sequel to Mote long ago and didn't think too much of it. It did seem like it was about making money off Motes reputation rather than having a meaningful story.

I regard Mote as science fiction and Hyperion as Fantasy/Horror.

The warriors in Mote made a kind of evolutionary sense. But the Shrike in Hyperion was just a pointless bogeyman in a Byzantine plot by the AIs. I read The Fall of Hyperion to try to make sense of some of the interesting characters in Hyperion but it fell apart more than it explained things well in my opinion.

But the world population reached 4 billion in 1974 when Mote was published. Now we have 7 billion with Peak Oil.

WE ARE THE MOTIES!

That is what good sci-fi is. allegories for the future. We need to think about what kind of future to make. But we need to know what is going on.

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