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carldiesturmer
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Posted: Tue 2009-04-28 13:37
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| Politics: Oligarchical Collectivist |
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| Re: I thought Obama WAS the topic |
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| TheBiggerTheLie wrote: |
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'Populist', 'Pessimist'- what do you mean by these vague labels you pin on people? xx
xx I am not college teacher, do the work yourself lazy bum. ++++ |
phew! for the sake of students everywhere, ZZZZ
I am heartened to hear you're no college teacher just yet. DD
you misconstrue... i understand what those words mean.
what i asked was, what do you mean by them?
what im trying to point out to you (but i dont know why i bother) is that you hide behind terms which are entirely of a relative and derivative nature as if their verbal pronunciation were authority enough itself to settle all arguments (If that were the case, most debates would be concluded in instants).PP
Thinking people actually try to move beyond that point... IV
There's no substance to what you say. hot air.
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[Obama's] campaign was the most expensive marketing exercise ever (it even beat Apple and Nintendo for the title of best marketing campaign of the year - LL
Advertising Age). They sold his image rather than his message; and managed to avoid any debate with those who would truly have highlighted Obama's shortcomings.#
# so what, bills have to be paid, the presidential candidate has to be promoted, what do you expect government charity and free space from the networks? |
lol... *scratches head* &&&.... the point (which you dont even dispute) was that Obama was advertised and sold on the basis of image & rhetoric (as opposed to substance & fact)$$$$.
The netwhoreks ??? can spend as much money as they like promoting their propaganda; ****
it's up to the individual to make sure they make their choice based on quality of the message rather than how many times it is broadcast on prime-time tv. #
Ultimately the power (and thus responsibility) lies not with the politician and the mind-control techniques FF,
but with the gullible voter. YOU, along with hundreds of millions of others have obviously swallowed hook, line and sinker and cannot even recognise the fact.
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| %%% split the Democrat vote and Republicans win by default, great more of the same! |
Wake up doofus$$, it's going to be MORE OF THE SAME IN ANY CASE (cf. Bush's 2nd term).
Secondly, the fear of splitting the Democrat vote is what you're supposed to believe. ***
It's the classic anti third-party propaganda line,
designed to inject the FEAR drug into the heads %%%% of any who might be contemplating voting for a third party candidate and thereby threaten the monopoly of the current one-party regime%.
It is the one sure way of assuring that there will be more of the same
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As for "To change policies overnight is an idiotic over-simplification of the issues involved which YOU need to come to terms."+ ...
+ care to elaborate on the issues? |
i refer you to my other post... it's not about changing anything overnight... but about restoring the sovereignty of the Constitution.. that is the key issue$.
If it had been seen to,
Bush and Cheney would be in put on trial and more than likely imprisoned (due to illegal war in Iraq, illegal spying and illegal use of torture,
and perhaps more),
the candidates' debates would be open to all,
not just Reps and Dems **, and the
Fed cartel would be shut down. |
Meph has used this appeal to intellectual vanity, yeah just sort of point it out to "STUDENTS EVERYWHERE". 
REMEMBER SMUG DILDO IT IS NOT MY JOB TO DO YOUR OWN WORK.
$ Keep elaborating.....and how?
% Just who says it is "current one-party regime" that your opinion, paranoia is showing already, good for producing conspiracy books and rehashing urban legends on the internet.
&&& feign misunderstanding.....to ignore the question...typical, use visuals, they are better for the prose.
??? who are these guys? Did you just make that epithet up?
*** it has the practical effect of splitting the vote and bringing Republicans in, but do you really care, it is all ONE PARTY REGIME anyway! Yep I thought you didn't care, you lied to me.
**** sore losers weep because they can't run successful fundraisers from supporters at $100 each. Yep sore losers whinge, bitch and moan. Must be the common interest, too narrow.
%%%% I believe it is FEAR, if BiggertheLie says it then it must be TRUE, FEAR. Are you truly terrorized with FEAR now, must be a fact.
FF fancy name for advertising and focus group marketing research, are you FEARful already?
# you must watch too much tv to give it so much credit....you know the idiots' box.
$$ so you were saying you wanna be a dickhead or something?
ZZZZ Nice try... hohoho
PP typical populist who refuses labels but follows 'the line', don't you know your own ideology bub?
IV intellectual vanity appeal to evade question. Pure weasel word eg: "Most educated people don't dwell on the question".
DD I don't care for your opinion bub
LL that's pure jealous loser talking...beaten the Republicans by mass appeal to the American Voter, but is success a bad thing? He won on clean terms, that marketing campaign is pure mind-control, nah just effective advertising.
** any takers who wanna blabber-mouth in the internet, what's stopping you? Ahemm
++++ You don't you know your own ideology but then......should I care?
$$$$ and that's a bad thing right? Right.
You're a very negative person bub, you DO need to smoke a joint and chill -heed your avatar 
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What is a Democratic Socialist?
It is a Communist who is cowardly
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Like Hitler said "get them persuaded and us elected"
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TheBiggerTheLie
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Posted: Wed 2009-04-29 02:39
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REMEMBER SMUG DILDO IT IS NOT MY JOB TO DO YOUR OWN WORK.
err.. do you not read the posts, or are you in actual fact intellectually challenged?
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| lol... *scratches head* &&&.... the point (which you dont even dispute) was that Obama was advertised and sold on the basis of image & rhetoric (as opposed to substance & fact)$$$$. |
&&& feign misunderstanding.....to ignore the question...typical, use visuals, they are better for the prose.
visuals are typical of what? (hey if you have a code of conduct that you'd like me to follow, send it to me, always good to have toilet paper substitutes). And no, that wasn't a sign of feigned misunderstanding... more like a sign of puzzlement at your levels of incoherence and ignorance... note that you missed the point hence i dont waste time answering irrelevant (rhetorical) questions..
$$$$ and that's a bad thing right? Right.
yeah, i do think its rather unfortunate that people can't see it for what it is. But if you're actually happy with a president who wins an election because of his rhetoric & image rather than his policy, you fully deserve what you got. wanna be an ignorant prole? YES YOU CAN!
The netwhoreks??? = network + whores.
%%%% I believe it is FEAR, if BiggertheLie says it then it must be TRUE, FEAR. Are you truly terrorized with FEAR now, must be a fact.
good. finally you understand 
You're a very negative person bub, you DO need to smoke a joint and chill -heed your avatar
I admit, it's sometimes hard to be positive when the world is full of people like you. But I'll give it a shot, thanks for the advice. |
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carldiesturmer
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Posted: Wed 2009-04-29 09:41
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| Politics: Oligarchical Collectivist |
Country: United States |
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| Re: I thought Obama WAS the topic |
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| TheBiggerTheLie wrote: |
REMEMBER SMUG DILDO IT IS NOT MY JOB TO DO YOUR OWN WORK.
err.. do you not read the posts, or are you in actual fact intellectually challenged?
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| lol... *scratches head* &&&.... the point (which you dont even dispute) was that Obama was advertised and sold on the basis of image & rhetoric (as opposed to substance & fact)$$$$. |
&&& feign misunderstanding.....to ignore the question...typical, use visuals, they are better for the prose.
visuals are typical of what? (hey if you have a code of conduct that you'd like me to follow, send it to me, always good to have toilet paper substitutes). And no, that wasn't a sign of feigned misunderstanding... more like a sign of puzzlement at your levels of incoherence and ignorance... note that you missed the point hence i dont waste time answering irrelevant (rhetorical) questions..
$$$$ and that's a bad thing right? Right.
yeah, i do think its rather unfortunate that people can't see it for what it is. But if you're actually happy with a president who wins an election because of his rhetoric & image rather than his policy, you fully deserve what you got. wanna be an ignorant prole? YES YOU CAN!
The netwhoreks??? = network + whores.
%%%% I believe it is FEAR, if BiggertheLie says it then it must be TRUE, FEAR. Are you truly terrorized with FEAR now, must be a fact.
good. finally you understand
You're a very negative person bub, you DO need to smoke a joint and chill -heed your avatar
I admit, it's sometimes hard to be positive when the world is full of people like you. But I'll give it a shot, thanks for the advice. |
Whatever gets you off man..
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What is a Democratic Socialist?
It is a Communist who is cowardly
enough to call himself what he's not, for fear of backlash on the Semantics. It is about the "Speed" of the "Revolution".
Like Hitler said "get them persuaded and us elected"
Caveat Emptor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Socialism
DO NOT USE BIG BROTHER'S LIBERTARIAN POLICIES AND BELIEFS AGAINST HIS HIMSELF AND HIS FORUM |
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Major General Despair
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Posted: Mon 2009-05-25 19:19
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| Politics: Anarchist |
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| Split the democratic vote the republicans win |
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That sounds quite true, in general same happens in Britain. Nobody but really extreme views vote for third parties, instead of the bland vaguely-left, vaguely-right parties. Say somebody is extremely left, who are they going to vote for the communists or the democrats? Because voting communist (although might be their preferred option) would mean that Republicans have an extremely small fraction of an advantage and if loads (but not enough to bring in communist) do the same, Republicans win.
Left people would not like a Republican government so who can blame them from voting democrat as opposed to communist? Although just to divert attention to my politics section, I'm an anarchist because precisely that. The pettiness of the major parties, whether its the Democrats or Republicans of America, or the New Labour (old Conservative) or Conservative. Neither are my choice, given the choice I would have less government but try to maintain social policies like NHS.
Anyway on topic, Obama is the best of the dickheads. Easy enough to discount at an early stage, but give him a chance. Still relatively early in his term and let him lead. Wait for a year before the riots start and you all go calling out for his head to roll down the Capitol Building's steps
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'Cause all government's the same
They can call it freedom
But slavery's the game
There's nothing that you offer
But the dream of last years hero
The truth of revolution brother
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