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Join the Resistance : Fall In Love
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Join the Resistance: Fall in Love
Falling in love is the ultimate act of revolution, of resistance to today's tedious, socially restrictive, culturally constrictive, humanly meaningless world.
Love transforms the world. Where the lover formerly felt boredom, he now feels passion. Where she once was complacent, she now is excited and compelled to self-asserting action. The world which once seemed empty and tiresome becomes filled with meaning, filled with risks and rewards, with majesty and danger. Life for the lover is a gift, an adventure with the highest possible stakes; every moment is memorable, heartbreaking in its fleeting beauty. When he falls in love, a man who once felt disoriented, alienated, and confused will know exactly what he wants. Suddenly his existence will make sense to him; suddenly it becomes valuable, even glorious and noble, to him. Burning passion is an antidote that will cure the worst cases of despair and resigned obedience.
Love makes it possible for individuals to connect to others in a meaningful way—it impels them to leave their shells and risk being honest and spontaneous together, to come to know each other in profound ways. Thus love makes it possible for them to care about each other genuinely, rather than at the end of the gun of Christian doctrine. But at the same time, it plucks the lover out of the routines of everyday life and separates her from other human beings. She will feel a million miles away from the herd of humanity, living as she is in a world entirely different from theirs.
In this sense love is subversive, because it poses a threat to the established order of our modern lives. The boring rituals of workday productivity and socialized etiquette will no longer mean anything to a man who has fallen in love, for there are more important forces guiding him than mere inertia and deference to tradition. Marketing strategies that depend upon apathy or insecurity to sell the products that keep the economy running as it does will have no effect upon him. Entertainment designed for passive consumption, which depends upon exhaustion or cynicism in the viewer, will not interest him.
There is no place for the passionate, romantic lover in today's world, business or private. For he can see that it might be more worthwhile to hitchhike to Alaska (or to sit in the park and watch the clouds sail by) with his sweetheart than to study for his calculus exam or sell real estate, and if he decides that it is, he will have the courage to do it rather than be tormented by unsatisfied longing. He knows that breaking into a cemetery and making love under the stars will make for a much more memorable night than watching television ever could. So love poses a threat to our consumer-driven economy, which depends upon consumption of (largely useless) products and the labor that this consumption necessitates to perpetuate itself.
Similarly, love poses a threat to our political system, for it is difficult to convince a man who has a lot to live for in his personal relationships to be willing to fight and die for an abstraction such as the state; for that matter, it may be difficult to convince him to even pay taxes. It poses a threat to cultures of all kinds, for when human beings are given wisdom and valor by true love they will not be held back by traditions or customs which are irrelevant to the feelings that guide them.
Love even poses a threat to our society itself. Passionate love is ignored and feared by the bourgeoisie, for it poses a great danger to the stability and pretense they covet. Love permits no lies, no falsehoods, not even any polite half-truths, but lays all emotions bare and reveals secrets which domesticated men and women cannot bear. You cannot lie with your emotional and sexual response; situations or ideas will excite or repel you whether you like it or not, whether it is polite or not, whether it is advisable or not. One cannot be a lover and a (dreadfully) responsible, (dreadfully) respectable member of today's society at the same time; for love will impel you to do things which are not "responsible" or "respectable." True love is irresponsible, irrepressible, rebellious, scornful of cowardice, dangerous to the lover and everyone around her, for it serves one master alone: the passion that makes the human heart beat faster. It disdains anything else, be it self-preservation, obedience, or shame. Love urges men and women to heroism, and to antiheroism—to indefensible acts that need no defense for the one who loves.
For the lover speaks a different moral and emotional language than the typical bourgeois man does. The average bourgeois man has no overwhelming, smoldering desires. Sadly, all he knows is the silent despair that comes of spending his life pursuing goals set for him by his family, his educators, his employers, his nation, and his culture, without ever being able to even consider what needs and wants he might have of his own. Without the burning fire of desire to guide him, he has no criteria upon which to choose what is right and wrong for himself. Consequently he is forced to adopt some dogma or doctrine to direct him through his life. There are a wide variety of moralities to choose from in the marketplace of ideas, but which morality a man buys into is immaterial so long as he chooses one because he is at a loss otherwise as to what he should do with himself and his life. How many men and women, having never realized that they had the option to choose their own destinies, wander through life in a dull haze thinking and acting in accordance with the laws that have been taught to them, merely because they no longer have any other idea of what to do? But the lover needs no prefabricated principles to direct her; her desires identify what is right and wrong for her, for her heart guides her through life. She sees beauty and meaning in the world, because her desires paint the world in these colors. She has no need for dogmas, for moral systems, for commandments and imperatives, for she knows what to do without instructions.
Thus she does indeed pose quite a threat to our society. What if everyone decided right and wrong for themselves, without any regard for conventional morality? What if everyone did whatever they wanted to, with the courage to face any consequences? What if everyone feared loveless, lifeless monotony more than they fear taking risks, more than they fear being hungry or cold or in danger? What if everyone set down their "responsibilities" and "common sense," and dared to pursue their wildest dreams, to set the stakes high and live each day as if it were the last? Think what a place the world would be! Certainly it would be different than it is now—and it is quite a truism that people from the "mainstream," the simultaneous keepers and victims of the status quo, fear change.
And so, despite the stereotyped images used in the media to sell toothpaste and honeymoon suites, genuine passionate love is discouraged in our culture. Being "carried away by your emotions" is frowned upon; instead we are raised to always be on our guard lest our hearts lead us astray. Rather than being encouraged to have the courage to face the consequences of risks taken in pursuit of our hearts' desires, we are counseled not to take risks at all, to be "responsible." And love itself is regulated. Men must not fall in love with other men, nor women with other women, nor individuals from different ethnic backgrounds with each other, or else the usual bigots who form the front-line offensive in the assault of modern Western culture upon the individual will step in. Men and women who have already entered into a legal/religious contract with each other are not to fall in love with anyone else, even if they no longer feel any passion for their marital partner. Love as most of us know it today is a carefully prescribed and preordained ritual, something that happens on Friday nights in expensive movie theaters and restaurants, something that fills the pockets of the shareholders in the entertainment industries without preventing workers from showing up to the office on time and ready to reroute phone calls all day long. This regulated, commercial "love" is nothing like the passionate, burning love that consumes the genuine lover. These restrictions, expectations, and regulations smother true love; for love is a wild flower that can never grow within the confines prepared for it but only appears where it is least expected.
We must fight against these cultural restraints that would cripple and smother our desires. For it is love that gives meaning to life, desire that makes it possible for us to make sense of our existence and find purpose in our lives. Without these, there is no way for us to determine how to live our lives, except to submit to some authority, to some god, master or doctrine that will tell us what to do and how to do it without ever giving us the satisfaction that self-determination does. So fall in love today, with men, with women, with music, with ambition, with yourself. . . with life!
One might say that it is ridiculous to implore others to fall in love—one either falls in love or one does not, it is not a choice that can be made consciously. Emotions do not follow the instructions of the rational mind. But the environment in which we must live out our lives has a great influence on our emotions, and we can make rational decisions that will affect this environment. It should be possible to work to change an environment that is hostile to love into an environment that will encourage it. Our task must be to engineer our world so that it is a world in which people can and do fall in love, and thus to reconstitute human beings so that we will be ready for the "revolution" spoken of in these pages—so that we will be able to find meaning and happiness in our lives.
What if everyone decided right and wrong for themselves, without any regard for conventional morality? What if everyone did whatever they wanted to, with the courage to face any consequences? What if everyone feared loveless, lifeless monotony more than they fear taking risks, more than they fear being hungry or cold or in danger? What if everyone set down their "responsibilities" and "common sense," and dared to pursue their wildest dreams, to set the stakes high and live each day as if it were the last? Think what a place the world would be!
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Kazooka wrote:
Join the Resistance: Fall in Love
Falling in love is the ultimate act of revolution, of resistance to today's tedious, socially restrictive, culturally constrictive, humanly meaningless world.
Love transforms the world. Where the lover formerly felt boredom, he now feels passion. Where she once was complacent, she now is excited and compelled to self-asserting action. The world which once seemed empty and tiresome becomes filled with meaning, filled with risks and rewards, with majesty and danger. Life for the lover is a gift, an adventure with the highest possible stakes; every moment is memorable, heartbreaking in its fleeting beauty. When he falls in love, a man who once felt disoriented, alienated, and confused will know exactly what he wants. Suddenly his existence will make sense to him; suddenly it becomes valuable, even glorious and noble, to him. Burning passion is an antidote that will cure the worst cases of despair and resigned obedience.
Love makes it possible for individuals to connect to others in a meaningful way—it impels them to leave their shells and risk being honest and spontaneous together, to come to know each other in profound ways. Thus love makes it possible for them to care about each other genuinely, rather than at the end of the gun of Christian doctrine. But at the same time, it plucks the lover out of the routines of everyday life and separates her from other human beings. She will feel a million miles away from the herd of humanity, living as she is in a world entirely different from theirs.
In this sense love is subversive, because it poses a threat to the established order of our modern lives. The boring rituals of workday productivity and socialized etiquette will no longer mean anything to a man who has fallen in love, for there are more important forces guiding him than mere inertia and deference to tradition. Marketing strategies that depend upon apathy or insecurity to sell the products that keep the economy running as it does will have no effect upon him. Entertainment designed for passive consumption, which depends upon exhaustion or cynicism in the viewer, will not interest him.
There is no place for the passionate, romantic lover in today's world, business or private. For he can see that it might be more worthwhile to hitchhike to Alaska (or to sit in the park and watch the clouds sail by) with his sweetheart than to study for his calculus exam or sell real estate, and if he decides that it is, he will have the courage to do it rather than be tormented by unsatisfied longing. He knows that breaking into a cemetery and making love under the stars will make for a much more memorable night than watching television ever could. So love poses a threat to our consumer-driven economy, which depends upon consumption of (largely useless) products and the labor that this consumption necessitates to perpetuate itself.
Similarly, love poses a threat to our political system, for it is difficult to convince a man who has a lot to live for in his personal relationships to be willing to fight and die for an abstraction such as the state; for that matter, it may be difficult to convince him to even pay taxes. It poses a threat to cultures of all kinds, for when human beings are given wisdom and valor by true love they will not be held back by traditions or customs which are irrelevant to the feelings that guide them.
Love even poses a threat to our society itself. Passionate love is ignored and feared by the bourgeoisie, for it poses a great danger to the stability and pretense they covet. Love permits no lies, no falsehoods, not even any polite half-truths, but lays all emotions bare and reveals secrets which domesticated men and women cannot bear. You cannot lie with your emotional and sexual response; situations or ideas will excite or repel you whether you like it or not, whether it is polite or not, whether it is advisable or not. One cannot be a lover and a (dreadfully) responsible, (dreadfully) respectable member of today's society at the same time; for love will impel you to do things which are not "responsible" or "respectable." True love is irresponsible, irrepressible, rebellious, scornful of cowardice, dangerous to the lover and everyone around her, for it serves one master alone: the passion that makes the human heart beat faster. It disdains anything else, be it self-preservation, obedience, or shame. Love urges men and women to heroism, and to antiheroism—to indefensible acts that need no defense for the one who loves.
For the lover speaks a different moral and emotional language than the typical bourgeois man does. The average bourgeois man has no overwhelming, smoldering desires. Sadly, all he knows is the silent despair that comes of spending his life pursuing goals set for him by his family, his educators, his employers, his nation, and his culture, without ever being able to even consider what needs and wants he might have of his own. Without the burning fire of desire to guide him, he has no criteria upon which to choose what is right and wrong for himself. Consequently he is forced to adopt some dogma or doctrine to direct him through his life. There are a wide variety of moralities to choose from in the marketplace of ideas, but which morality a man buys into is immaterial so long as he chooses one because he is at a loss otherwise as to what he should do with himself and his life. How many men and women, having never realized that they had the option to choose their own destinies, wander through life in a dull haze thinking and acting in accordance with the laws that have been taught to them, merely because they no longer have any other idea of what to do? But the lover needs no prefabricated principles to direct her; her desires identify what is right and wrong for her, for her heart guides her through life. She sees beauty and meaning in the world, because her desires paint the world in these colors. She has no need for dogmas, for moral systems, for commandments and imperatives, for she knows what to do without instructions.
Thus she does indeed pose quite a threat to our society. What if everyone decided right and wrong for themselves, without any regard for conventional morality? What if everyone did whatever they wanted to, with the courage to face any consequences? What if everyone feared loveless, lifeless monotony more than they fear taking risks, more than they fear being hungry or cold or in danger? What if everyone set down their "responsibilities" and "common sense," and dared to pursue their wildest dreams, to set the stakes high and live each day as if it were the last? Think what a place the world would be! Certainly it would be different than it is now—and it is quite a truism that people from the "mainstream," the simultaneous keepers and victims of the status quo, fear change.
And so, despite the stereotyped images used in the media to sell toothpaste and honeymoon suites, genuine passionate love is discouraged in our culture. Being "carried away by your emotions" is frowned upon; instead we are raised to always be on our guard lest our hearts lead us astray. Rather than being encouraged to have the courage to face the consequences of risks taken in pursuit of our hearts' desires, we are counseled not to take risks at all, to be "responsible." And love itself is regulated. Men must not fall in love with other men, nor women with other women, nor individuals from different ethnic backgrounds with each other, or else the usual bigots who form the front-line offensive in the assault of modern Western culture upon the individual will step in. Men and women who have already entered into a legal/religious contract with each other are not to fall in love with anyone else, even if they no longer feel any passion for their marital partner. Love as most of us know it today is a carefully prescribed and preordained ritual, something that happens on Friday nights in expensive movie theaters and restaurants, something that fills the pockets of the shareholders in the entertainment industries without preventing workers from showing up to the office on time and ready to reroute phone calls all day long. This regulated, commercial "love" is nothing like the passionate, burning love that consumes the genuine lover. These restrictions, expectations, and regulations smother true love; for love is a wild flower that can never grow within the confines prepared for it but only appears where it is least expected.
We must fight against these cultural restraints that would cripple and smother our desires. For it is love that gives meaning to life, desire that makes it possible for us to make sense of our existence and find purpose in our lives. Without these, there is no way for us to determine how to live our lives, except to submit to some authority, to some god, master or doctrine that will tell us what to do and how to do it without ever giving us the satisfaction that self-determination does. So fall in love today, with men, with women, with music, with ambition, with yourself. . . with life!
One might say that it is ridiculous to implore others to fall in love—one either falls in love or one does not, it is not a choice that can be made consciously. Emotions do not follow the instructions of the rational mind. But the environment in which we must live out our lives has a great influence on our emotions, and we can make rational decisions that will affect this environment. It should be possible to work to change an environment that is hostile to love into an environment that will encourage it. Our task must be to engineer our world so that it is a world in which people can and do fall in love, and thus to reconstitute human beings so that we will be ready for the "revolution" spoken of in these pages—so that we will be able to find meaning and happiness in our lives.
What if everyone decided right and wrong for themselves, without any regard for conventional morality? What if everyone did whatever they wanted to, with the courage to face any consequences? What if everyone feared loveless, lifeless monotony more than they fear taking risks, more than they fear being hungry or cold or in danger? What if everyone set down their "responsibilities" and "common sense," and dared to pursue their wildest dreams, to set the stakes high and live each day as if it were the last? Think what a place the world would be!
-Crimethinc.
hmm sounds like a romantic revolutionary, are you a girl or merely a simple horny guy with a gimmick to trick chicks....."Anti-Slut Radar" is on.... a revolutionary full of angst against the "System" wants to find another similar minded person...to share and have link together.... I love the concept...join the struggle together against this cruel world which is so cold and indifferent.. _________________
What is a Democratic Socialist?
It is a Communist who is cowardly
enough to call himself what he's not, for fear of backlash on the Semantics. It is about the "Speed" of the "Revolution".
Like Hitler said "get them persuaded and us elected"
Caveat Emptor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Socialism DO NOT USE BIG BROTHER'S LIBERTARIAN POLICIES AND BELIEFS AGAINST HIS HIMSELF AND HIS FORUM
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carldiesturmer wrote:
Kazooka wrote:
Join the Resistance: Fall in Love
Falling in love is the ultimate act of revolution, of resistance to today's tedious, socially restrictive, culturally constrictive, humanly meaningless world.
Love transforms the world. Where the lover formerly felt boredom, he now feels passion. Where she once was complacent, she now is excited and compelled to self-asserting action. The world which once seemed empty and tiresome becomes filled with meaning, filled with risks and rewards, with majesty and danger. Life for the lover is a gift, an adventure with the highest possible stakes; every moment is memorable, heartbreaking in its fleeting beauty. When he falls in love, a man who once felt disoriented, alienated, and confused will know exactly what he wants. Suddenly his existence will make sense to him; suddenly it becomes valuable, even glorious and noble, to him. Burning passion is an antidote that will cure the worst cases of despair and resigned obedience.
Love makes it possible for individuals to connect to others in a meaningful way—it impels them to leave their shells and risk being honest and spontaneous together, to come to know each other in profound ways. Thus love makes it possible for them to care about each other genuinely, rather than at the end of the gun of Christian doctrine. But at the same time, it plucks the lover out of the routines of everyday life and separates her from other human beings. She will feel a million miles away from the herd of humanity, living as she is in a world entirely different from theirs.
In this sense love is subversive, because it poses a threat to the established order of our modern lives. The boring rituals of workday productivity and socialized etiquette will no longer mean anything to a man who has fallen in love, for there are more important forces guiding him than mere inertia and deference to tradition. Marketing strategies that depend upon apathy or insecurity to sell the products that keep the economy running as it does will have no effect upon him. Entertainment designed for passive consumption, which depends upon exhaustion or cynicism in the viewer, will not interest him.
There is no place for the passionate, romantic lover in today's world, business or private. For he can see that it might be more worthwhile to hitchhike to Alaska (or to sit in the park and watch the clouds sail by) with his sweetheart than to study for his calculus exam or sell real estate, and if he decides that it is, he will have the courage to do it rather than be tormented by unsatisfied longing. He knows that breaking into a cemetery and making love under the stars will make for a much more memorable night than watching television ever could. So love poses a threat to our consumer-driven economy, which depends upon consumption of (largely useless) products and the labor that this consumption necessitates to perpetuate itself.
Similarly, love poses a threat to our political system, for it is difficult to convince a man who has a lot to live for in his personal relationships to be willing to fight and die for an abstraction such as the state; for that matter, it may be difficult to convince him to even pay taxes. It poses a threat to cultures of all kinds, for when human beings are given wisdom and valor by true love they will not be held back by traditions or customs which are irrelevant to the feelings that guide them.
Love even poses a threat to our society itself. Passionate love is ignored and feared by the bourgeoisie, for it poses a great danger to the stability and pretense they covet. Love permits no lies, no falsehoods, not even any polite half-truths, but lays all emotions bare and reveals secrets which domesticated men and women cannot bear. You cannot lie with your emotional and sexual response; situations or ideas will excite or repel you whether you like it or not, whether it is polite or not, whether it is advisable or not. One cannot be a lover and a (dreadfully) responsible, (dreadfully) respectable member of today's society at the same time; for love will impel you to do things which are not "responsible" or "respectable." True love is irresponsible, irrepressible, rebellious, scornful of cowardice, dangerous to the lover and everyone around her, for it serves one master alone: the passion that makes the human heart beat faster. It disdains anything else, be it self-preservation, obedience, or shame. Love urges men and women to heroism, and to antiheroism—to indefensible acts that need no defense for the one who loves.
For the lover speaks a different moral and emotional language than the typical bourgeois man does. The average bourgeois man has no overwhelming, smoldering desires. Sadly, all he knows is the silent despair that comes of spending his life pursuing goals set for him by his family, his educators, his employers, his nation, and his culture, without ever being able to even consider what needs and wants he might have of his own. Without the burning fire of desire to guide him, he has no criteria upon which to choose what is right and wrong for himself. Consequently he is forced to adopt some dogma or doctrine to direct him through his life. There are a wide variety of moralities to choose from in the marketplace of ideas, but which morality a man buys into is immaterial so long as he chooses one because he is at a loss otherwise as to what he should do with himself and his life. How many men and women, having never realized that they had the option to choose their own destinies, wander through life in a dull haze thinking and acting in accordance with the laws that have been taught to them, merely because they no longer have any other idea of what to do? But the lover needs no prefabricated principles to direct her; her desires identify what is right and wrong for her, for her heart guides her through life. She sees beauty and meaning in the world, because her desires paint the world in these colors. She has no need for dogmas, for moral systems, for commandments and imperatives, for she knows what to do without instructions.
Thus she does indeed pose quite a threat to our society. What if everyone decided right and wrong for themselves, without any regard for conventional morality? What if everyone did whatever they wanted to, with the courage to face any consequences? What if everyone feared loveless, lifeless monotony more than they fear taking risks, more than they fear being hungry or cold or in danger? What if everyone set down their "responsibilities" and "common sense," and dared to pursue their wildest dreams, to set the stakes high and live each day as if it were the last? Think what a place the world would be! Certainly it would be different than it is now—and it is quite a truism that people from the "mainstream," the simultaneous keepers and victims of the status quo, fear change.
And so, despite the stereotyped images used in the media to sell toothpaste and honeymoon suites, genuine passionate love is discouraged in our culture. Being "carried away by your emotions" is frowned upon; instead we are raised to always be on our guard lest our hearts lead us astray. Rather than being encouraged to have the courage to face the consequences of risks taken in pursuit of our hearts' desires, we are counseled not to take risks at all, to be "responsible." And love itself is regulated. Men must not fall in love with other men, nor women with other women, nor individuals from different ethnic backgrounds with each other, or else the usual bigots who form the front-line offensive in the assault of modern Western culture upon the individual will step in. Men and women who have already entered into a legal/religious contract with each other are not to fall in love with anyone else, even if they no longer feel any passion for their marital partner. Love as most of us know it today is a carefully prescribed and preordained ritual, something that happens on Friday nights in expensive movie theaters and restaurants, something that fills the pockets of the shareholders in the entertainment industries without preventing workers from showing up to the office on time and ready to reroute phone calls all day long. This regulated, commercial "love" is nothing like the passionate, burning love that consumes the genuine lover. These restrictions, expectations, and regulations smother true love; for love is a wild flower that can never grow within the confines prepared for it but only appears where it is least expected.
We must fight against these cultural restraints that would cripple and smother our desires. For it is love that gives meaning to life, desire that makes it possible for us to make sense of our existence and find purpose in our lives. Without these, there is no way for us to determine how to live our lives, except to submit to some authority, to some god, master or doctrine that will tell us what to do and how to do it without ever giving us the satisfaction that self-determination does. So fall in love today, with men, with women, with music, with ambition, with yourself. . . with life!
One might say that it is ridiculous to implore others to fall in love—one either falls in love or one does not, it is not a choice that can be made consciously. Emotions do not follow the instructions of the rational mind. But the environment in which we must live out our lives has a great influence on our emotions, and we can make rational decisions that will affect this environment. It should be possible to work to change an environment that is hostile to love into an environment that will encourage it. Our task must be to engineer our world so that it is a world in which people can and do fall in love, and thus to reconstitute human beings so that we will be ready for the "revolution" spoken of in these pages—so that we will be able to find meaning and happiness in our lives.
What if everyone decided right and wrong for themselves, without any regard for conventional morality? What if everyone did whatever they wanted to, with the courage to face any consequences? What if everyone feared loveless, lifeless monotony more than they fear taking risks, more than they fear being hungry or cold or in danger? What if everyone set down their "responsibilities" and "common sense," and dared to pursue their wildest dreams, to set the stakes high and live each day as if it were the last? Think what a place the world would be!
-Crimethinc.
hmm sounds like a romantic revolutionary, are you a girl or merely a simple horny guy with a gimmick to trick chicks....."Anti-Slut Radar" is on.... a revolutionary full of angst against the "System" wants to find another similar minded person...to share and have link together.... I love the concept...join the struggle together against this cruel world which is so cold and indifferent..
Well-put, both of you. This is revolutionary thought at its best :]
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hmm sounds like a romantic revolutionary, are you a girl or merely a simple horny guy with a gimmick to trick chicks....."Anti-Slut Radar" is on.... a revolutionary full of angst against the "System" wants to find another similar minded person...to share and have link together.... I love the concept...join the struggle together against this cruel world which is so cold and indifferent..
Did you even read the article before you decided to be a dick? _________________
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Posted: Sat 2007-07-21 04:45
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Kazooka wrote:
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hmm sounds like a romantic revolutionary, are you a girl or merely a simple horny guy with a gimmick to trick chicks....."Anti-Slut Radar" is on.... a revolutionary full of angst against the "System" wants to find another similar minded person...to share and have link together.... I love the concept...join the struggle together against this cruel world which is so cold and indifferent..
Did you even read the article before you decided to be a dick?
I don't think Carl's mocking you at all or on purpose. He said he agreed with the idea, man.
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Kazooka wrote:
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hmm sounds like a romantic revolutionary, are you a girl or merely a simple horny guy with a gimmick to trick chicks....."Anti-Slut Radar" is on.... a revolutionary full of angst against the "System" wants to find another similar minded person...to share and have link together.... I love the concept...join the struggle together against this cruel world which is so cold and indifferent..
Did you even read the article before you decided to be a dick?
....actually you don't have a sense of humor, however it has been done before....the situation lends itself to it... how old are you any way, if I may ask? _________________
What is a Democratic Socialist?
It is a Communist who is cowardly
enough to call himself what he's not, for fear of backlash on the Semantics. It is about the "Speed" of the "Revolution".
Like Hitler said "get them persuaded and us elected"
Caveat Emptor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Socialism DO NOT USE BIG BROTHER'S LIBERTARIAN POLICIES AND BELIEFS AGAINST HIS HIMSELF AND HIS FORUM
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Kazooka wrote:
Sorry, you were mocking me, it seems I don't have a sense of humor when it's at the expense of myself.
I'm 16.
And you?
no offence intended...I just watched too many movies with revolutionaries falling in love with each other....I mean 1984 the novel is about that...yeah it is very romantic too...
I am 29, sometimes rather immature....like 14
Can a girl or woman seduce my heart again? Can a special person make my heart race up in pace and send my mind into a spin, those special enough have to be found.....is the only choice for me become the heartless and selfish seducer of those young hearts, the questions begs several times each day...until I meet my match...."no happy ever afters" though in real life though....
Keep up the good work... _________________
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Kazooka, I think you've simply misunderstood carldiesturmer. He meant no offense, he was being supportive, even. His writing style is slightly incoherent and jumbled, and goes off in tangents just like the film Donnie Darko, but he still makes a point, and his point wasn't to be rude, but to congratulate you on your finding peace. _________________
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True Love is so revolutionary.....suversive
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Morgoth the Oppressor wrote:
Kazooka, I think you've simply misunderstood carldiesturmer. He meant no offense, he was being supportive, even. His writing style is slightly incoherent and jumbled, and goes off in tangents just like the film Donnie Darko, but he still makes a point, and his point wasn't to be rude, but to congratulate you on your finding peace.
...I think I include too many topic "jumps".....my verbal mind is so lackadaisical...
glad to hear you are back in shape Nick _________________
What is a Democratic Socialist?
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enough to call himself what he's not, for fear of backlash on the Semantics. It is about the "Speed" of the "Revolution".
Like Hitler said "get them persuaded and us elected"
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Re: Join the Resistance : Fall In Love
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Kazooka wrote:
Join the Resistance: Fall in Love
Falling in love is the ultimate act of revolution, of resistance to today's tedious, socially restrictive, culturally constrictive, humanly meaningless world.
Hm. I don't know, is it really a revolution? Love has existed, I dare say, millions of years before you even started to walk this planet. What if the world is quite meaingless in itself, but every human being with a pragmatic sense still has some feelings to create his own meaning? What if his meaning is to reject love until his work is done?
Kazooka wrote:
Love transforms the world. Where the lover formerly felt boredom, he now feels passion. Where she once was complacent, she now is excited and compelled to self-asserting action. The world which once seemed empty and tiresome becomes filled with meaning, filled with risks and rewards, with majesty and danger. Life for the lover is a gift, an adventure with the highest possible stakes; every moment is memorable, heartbreaking in its fleeting beauty. When he falls in love, a man who once felt disoriented, alienated, and confused will know exactly what he wants. Suddenly his existence will make sense to him; suddenly it becomes valuable, even glorious and noble, to him. Burning passion is an antidote that will cure the worst cases of despair and resigned obedience.
Hm. While I agree that love is slightly like morphine ceasing the despair and pain, it doesn't make sense that the person is illuminated and knows exactly what he wants. Whatever problems he had before he met his love, it's still present even though his painkiller girl is trying comfort him.
Kazooka wrote:
Love makes it possible for individuals to connect to others in a meaningful way—it impels them to leave their shells and risk being honest and spontaneous together, to come to know each other in profound ways. Thus love makes it possible for them to care about each other genuinely, rather than at the end of the gun of Christian doctrine. But at the same time, it plucks the lover out of the routines of everyday life and separates her from other human beings. She will feel a million miles away from the herd of humanity, living as she is in a world entirely different from theirs.
Agreed. Altough it is possible to perform that awakening in a single state as well. But say, two lovers are suddenly aware of their possibilites, and one day the split for some reason - someone has to tell that person that he/she still has those possibilities.
Kazooka wrote:
In this sense love is subversive, because it poses a threat to the established order of our modern lives. The boring rituals of workday productivity and socialized etiquette will no longer mean anything to a man who has fallen in love, for there are more important forces guiding him than mere inertia and deference to tradition. Marketing strategies that depend upon apathy or insecurity to sell the products that keep the economy running as it does will have no effect upon him. Entertainment designed for passive consumption, which depends upon exhaustion or cynicism in the viewer, will not interest him.
Hehe, if you mean television, I think it's kind of nice to watch TV with my dearest one.
Kazooka wrote:
There is no place for the passionate, romantic lover in today's world, business or private. For he can see that it might be more worthwhile to hitchhike to Alaska (or to sit in the park and watch the clouds sail by) with his sweetheart than to study for his calculus exam or sell real estate, and if he decides that it is, he will have the courage to do it rather than be tormented by unsatisfied longing. He knows that breaking into a cemetery and making love under the stars will make for a much more memorable night than watching television ever could. So love poses a threat to our consumer-driven economy, which depends upon consumption of (largely useless) products and the labor that this consumption necessitates to perpetuate itself.
Still, some of the basic products are needed. Sure it's romantic to be alone in the forest for a week, but after a couple of months and fights about trivial matters it starts to be important with food, water and a warm place to live.
Kazooka wrote:
Similarly, love poses a threat to our political system, for it is difficult to convince a man who has a lot to live for in his personal relationships to be willing to fight and die for an abstraction such as the state; for that matter, it may be difficult to convince him to even pay taxes. It poses a threat to cultures of all kinds, for when human beings are given wisdom and valor by true love they will not be held back by traditions or customs which are irrelevant to the feelings that guide them.
Now, it's easy to pretend that it's just you and your lover on this planet. But to put that in practise is a disrespect to every human being. Thus, by paying taxes, or by at least donating money somewhere you can honestly say that you care. You care for mentally disabled, you care for the kids in school, you care for the elders and you are aware that there's a real world out there.
Kazooka wrote:
What if everyone decided right and wrong for themselves, without any regard for conventional morality? What if everyone did whatever they wanted to, with the courage to face any consequences? What if everyone feared loveless, lifeless monotony more than they fear taking risks, more than they fear being hungry or cold or in danger? What if everyone set down their "responsibilities" and "common sense," and dared to pursue their wildest dreams, to set the stakes high and live each day as if it were the last? Think what a place the world would be!
Ah, here's something I really believe in; "everyone should decide for themselves". Moral is relative. People know the consequences if they do something wrong, but they are still free to choose whatever they like. However it's easy to affect people. The easiest way is to affect someone in your family - then it will affect you in return. Either someone in your family is a "loveless" hardworking bastard, or a jellyhearted worldpeace revolutionist. This person probably suffer from narcissism. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism_(psychology) _________________ Trust no one, do as thou wilt.
"Everything in this room is eatable, even *I'm* eatable! But that is called "cannibalism," my dear children, and is in fact frowned upon in most societies"
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there is choice according to keanu reeves's wooden acting
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Falling in love is indeed an act of rebellion, think of Shakespeare in Love or Love Actually or Romeo and Juliet and Westside Story. Who can resist that?
One can only be true to oneself, not to do otherwise is betrayal of oneself and of others.
Winston Smith's Love for Julia Smith, so true and courageous, furtive and secret, a thoughcrime punishable by Big Brother with Death,
For there can only be love for Big Brother and no one else.
Naked Rebellion
...can there only be LOVE for Big Brother?
For when you're human, there is the consequent Hope,
the biggest source of strength and at the same time its greatest weakness.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaowT-J62Ks
Love, Bullets, Cyborgs and Spirituality, yet Even More Human than Human, I'm gonna dream of Unicorns tonight.
There is more to the mere mortality of this body and its degrading DNA for it can dream beyond this trivial reality and its imprisoning boundaries of time and space.
So Let's join the Join the Resistance : Fall In Love -Unstoppable. _________________
What is a Democratic Socialist?
It is a Communist who is cowardly
enough to call himself what he's not, for fear of backlash on the Semantics. It is about the "Speed" of the "Revolution".
Like Hitler said "get them persuaded and us elected"
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What a topical thread to revive for valentines day, and what a sad fellow I am for sitting here posting on a forum on this day when we celebrate chaucer's poor choice of words. (In my defence I'm not being curmudgeonly, my beloved is simply far away).
To be honest, however, I must take to role of the cynic. The OP's championing of love and falling therein is all very nice, and it has a certain stirring quality we can all relate to from the heady first days of infatuation, but ... does it really ring true? Or rather, I suspect it does ring true, the piece describes exceptionally how we like to think of love; a willingness to sacrifice everything; finding the answers to your deepest questions in the refraction of your loved ones eye. I would argue however, despite a twinge of guilt, that we really didn't hold those feelings in ernest.
Sure we spent a lot of time gazing at the astral glory of vega and altair and whispered many a candied verse, but when push came to shove how many people really made a sacrifice for their highschool sweetheart? I'm not talking about standing outside ann summers overburdened with shopping bags and looking sheepish, I'm talking about moving, changing your career/university hopes, giving serious lasting things up for their benefit. In my experience the love described in the OP is actually rather shallow, sure you'll ditch your friends every night to engage in wanton bestial acts and happily spend your lunch break holding hands and melting in each others gaze, but any real challenge the relationship faces will more often than not collapse it. This is rightly so by the way, if you've been going out for less than a year sacrificing your career is just plain dumb when a couple months down the line you find the only real compatibility you had was Major Histocompatibility Complex.
It's nice to think that there is this emotion that leads us to reject the petty goals of modern materialism and value another human being above all reason, even moreso that we do this almost instantly and involuntarily as a simple byproduct of a wonderful phenomenon. Nice... but largely poetry. A relationship in its formative months/years is largely a selfish one, if no doubt a reciprocal one.
I think it is much later in a relationship that one potentially develops a communal relationship where you actually care about the person behind the attraction rather than this thing which reciprocates an attraction you feel towards it. Lover's are easy to find, that amazing friendship that has blossomed from within love is not.
I've been dating the same girl for coming on 6 years now, the beggining was certainly exciting but as a person I think I like her a lot more now than I did then, for one thing I know her now as opposed to simply falling to pieces at her slightest glance. I also know that now I would stand up to preserve and defend the relationship I have with the one I love. Even though I couldn't honestly describe the love we have now as anything like that described in the OP, despite its appealing romance.
I honestly think we should stop relishing the most common and meaningless aspects of love, this love fetishism will lead us far more easily to a stream of rosalinds than to a juliet ... although perhaps that is a bad example.
Perhaps I am just annoyed at how much I had to spend on roses/chocolates this year?^^. _________________ "I wanted to know the world that was outside of the well.
So I tried hard to get out from the bottom of the well.
I wanted to know the world that was outside of the well.
So I climbed up numerous of times despite falling down over and over again.
But then I realized it.
The higher and higher I climb, the pain increases when I fall down again.
When my interest in the world outside of the well began to equal the amount of pain,
That was when I finally realized the meaning of the story to Der Froschkönig."
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Nah... Not too interested in this sort of love, currently, especially on Valentine's Day, where it almost seems like I have to be deliberately unromantic to counter the balance - I've been doing things that I'd normally do, like examining WWII fighter plane statistics, except with considerably more distaste for the whole Valentine's Day romantic angle.
I'll wait for the mythical female who accepts computers, likes cars, planes and other mechanical apparatus, has a reasonable interest in these, but not at the expense of femininity, and is reasonably attractive. _________________ "Rejection of technology ruins a good mind." - RAK
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RAK wrote:
Nah... Not too interested in this sort of love, currently, especially on Valentine's Day, where it almost seems like I have to be deliberately unromantic to counter the balance - I've been doing things that I'd normally do, like examining WWII fighter plane statistics, except with considerably more distaste for the whole Valentine's Day romantic angle.
I'll wait for the mythical female who accepts computers, likes cars, planes and other mechanical apparatus, has a reasonable interest in these, but not at the expense of femininity, and is reasonably attractive.
Women like those aren't a myth, they're more of a rarity. I'm still waiting for someone particularly special to show this summer... and he's close to matching my first relationship in matters of time. May 27 will make it exactly two years :] _________________
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RAK wrote:
Nah... Not too interested in this sort of love, currently, especially on Valentine's Day, where it almost seems like I have to be deliberately unromantic to counter the balance - I've been doing things that I'd normally do, like examining WWII fighter plane statistics, except with considerably more distaste for the whole Valentine's Day romantic angle.
I'll wait for the mythical female who accepts computers, likes cars, planes and other mechanical apparatus, has a reasonable interest in these, but not at the expense of femininity, and is reasonably attractive.
I noticed it only when the google logo changed. _________________
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Love Revolution 9 NOW!/Punch-Drunk Love
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RAK wrote:
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Women like those aren't a myth, they're more of a rarity.
Probably should have mentioned: "that isn't already spoken for".
"...the world does not belong to Quitters before the Action even gets started...."
...something more effective for the ideal pretty face with the intelligence and style, one has to look and go after the sweethearts, nevermind if she's 'engaged' sign on, if you're good enough she'll dump the boyfriend asap hehehe, more over even cheat on them and their husbands for the fun flings that are gonna ensue in the affair. One can make suppositions, create mental barriers to object internally to taking any action-rationalizations in other words-.
But then how can you know if you don't take the risk of disappointment?
The Future Belongs to the Courageous Men, those who're not, simply become EXTINCT DNA Variances and left to the cold mercies of Lady Oblivion.
Tyler Durden:Fightclub
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What is a Democratic Socialist?
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Like Hitler said "get them persuaded and us elected"
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Re: Love Revolution 9 NOW!/Punch-Drunk Love
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Klaatu barada nikto! wrote:
"...the world does not belong to Quitters before the Action even gets started...."
...something more effective for the ideal pretty face with the intelligence and style, one has to look and go after the sweethearts, nevermind if she's 'engaged' sign on, if you're good enough she'll dump the boyfriend asap hehehe, more over even cheat on them and their husbands for the fun flings that are gonna ensue in the affair. One can make suppositions, create mental barriers to object internally to taking any action-rationalizations in other words-.
But then how can you know if you don't the risk of disappointment?
The Future Belongs to the Courageous Men, those who're not simply become EXTINCT and left to the cold mercies of Lady Oblivion.
Tyler Durden:Fightclub
There is little more despicable than a cheater in my opinion, how can you have any sort of trust and genuine affection in a relationship based un such pain and betrayal? There's a difference between not having the courage to pursue what you want and knowing the truth of what it is you do actually want.
I think the real trick, not that this sudden intrusion into RAK's love life is really fair, is to stop looking for your carbon copy. I've met girls who are as into computers, gaming, etc as I am and had zero chemistry, a smart pretty girl you can have a conversation with is all one needs; you can share your interests and hobbies with each other later. _________________ "I wanted to know the world that was outside of the well.
So I tried hard to get out from the bottom of the well.
I wanted to know the world that was outside of the well.
So I climbed up numerous of times despite falling down over and over again.
But then I realized it.
The higher and higher I climb, the pain increases when I fall down again.
When my interest in the world outside of the well began to equal the amount of pain,
That was when I finally realized the meaning of the story to Der Froschkönig."
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not to be merely promiscuous and superficial, however how's a man gonna find out the best girlfriend if he just sits around for her to come to him instead?
Action is bound to get more results than inaction. Nothing personal on that instance JD.
I see too much of rationalization standing on the way of meeting interesting and smart girls. You know tech chicks are cool too.
On a frivolous note: stealing girlfriends and wives is a lot of fun, I guess that makes me a bad guy here though...
*** back to topic *** _________________
What is a Democratic Socialist?
It is a Communist who is cowardly
enough to call himself what he's not, for fear of backlash on the Semantics. It is about the "Speed" of the "Revolution".
Like Hitler said "get them persuaded and us elected"
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Klaatu barada nikto! wrote:
not to be merely promiscuous and superficial, however how's a man gonna find out the best girlfriend if he just sits around for her to come to him instead?
Action is bound to get more results than inaction. Nothing personal on that instance JD.
I see too much of rationalization standing on the way of meeting interesting and smart girls. You know tech chicks are cool too.
On a frivolous note: stealing girlfriends and wives is a lot of fun, I guess that makes me a bad guy here though...
*** back to topic ***
Well if you wanna go for girls who let themselves so far down as to cheat on loving husbands and boyfriends you're definitely with the not so classy women. That's all about sex, not about love . It might be fun for a while but it get's a little old once you've grown mature. But hey, some people never grow up.
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