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The complete patriot's guide to oligarchical collectivism
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Good day all like minded 1984 readers and flaming haters. I believe you will find this book interesting, life altering, or at least something to criticize and build your debating skills. The new release titled the complete patriot's guide to oligarchical collectivism: its theory and practice, by Ethan, is now available variously, most easily on amazon.com
Here is description and blurbs from back cover:
The volume in hand is a blunt affirmation of patriotism. For the junior, the book provides lessons in guidebook format that ordinary schools don’t touch on. For the senior, the book presents information to inspire patriotic progression that ordinary institutions shun. The book is meant to be a tool for the expansion of individual mentality.
The book is nonfiction based partly on the fiction work “1984”, offering explanations of allegories and alliterations in the classic by George Orwell. Information concerning actuality and conceptuality is questioned and calculated to refine powers of observation, eliminate narrow-mindedness and empower individuals as did the fictional book within the book.
The Complete Patriot’s Guide to Oligarchical Collectivism: Its Theory and Practice explains patriotism, oligarchical collectivism, the status quo and an array of conditions through historical and contemporary information. It is a guide for patriotic individuals among oligarchic institutions. The book evaluates coinciding information and distorted information while inspiring contemplation of oneself and one’s surroundings. The book is a valuable blueprint for taking ownership with respect to our lives, our community and our world.
“Ethan writes cold, hard and direct. He defines patriotism exactly, but more than that, Ethan explores reality thoroughly. The book is informative, inspiring and highly enlightening.”
~Allah B, Nation of Gods and Earths, Harlem
It’s a book to be read a few pages at a time, and then contemplate for hours after. It’s written as a learning experience, the facts, quotes and ideas bundled together in a way which leads to our own thoughts as the material moves on. I remember when 1984 was ushered in, wondering: “What next?” Ethan wondered as well, and the results of his curiosity and writing, if not the answer, will lead to the answer.
~Deborah Meier, Senior Scholar NYU, founder of the modern small schools movement _________________ I think therefore I am
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Posted: Tue 2009-08-11 01:25
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The complete wanker patriot's guide unpro spamming
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Winston the third wrote:
Good day all like minded 1984 readers and flaming haters. I believe you will find this book interesting, life altering, or at least something to criticize and build your debating skills. The new release titled the complete patriot's guide to oligarchical collectivism: its theory and practice, by Ethan, is now available variously, most easily on amazon.com
Here is description and blurbs from back cover:
The volume in hand is a blunt affirmation of patriotism. For the junior, the book provides lessons in guidebook format that ordinary schools don’t touch on. For the senior, the book presents information to inspire patriotic progression that ordinary institutions shun. The book is meant to be a tool for the expansion of individual mentality.
The book is nonfiction based partly on the fiction work “1984”, offering explanations of allegories and alliterations in the classic by George Orwell. Information concerning actuality and conceptuality is questioned and calculated to refine powers of observation, eliminate narrow-mindedness and empower individuals as did the fictional book within the book.
The Complete Patriot’s Guide to Oligarchical Collectivism: Its Theory and Practice explains patriotism, oligarchical collectivism, the status quo and an array of conditions through historical and contemporary information. It is a guide for patriotic individuals among oligarchic institutions. The book evaluates coinciding information and distorted information while inspiring contemplation of oneself and one’s surroundings. The book is a valuable blueprint for taking ownership with respect to our lives, our community and our world.
“Ethan writes cold, hard and direct. He defines patriotism exactly, but more than that, Ethan explores reality thoroughly. The book is informative, inspiring and highly enlightening.”
~Allah B, Nation of Gods and Earths, Harlem
It’s a book to be read a few pages at a time, and then contemplate for hours after. It’s written as a learning experience, the facts, quotes and ideas bundled together in a way which leads to our own thoughts as the material moves on. I remember when 1984 was ushered in, wondering: “What next?” Ethan wondered as well, and the results of his curiosity and writing, if not the answer, will lead to the answer.
~Deborah Meier, Senior Scholar NYU, founder of the modern small schools movement
Posting your spam again, and still not providing live reference links to that stupid right-wing diatribe called 'Patriot' sloganeering. No wonder you consider criticism flaming given that you can't answer questions in a straight and clear way without resorting to worn-out fighting words.
You're a fucking a idiotic spammer, tell me does the forum say: "Free Board Space for Spammers?" Well?
Your 1984 allegory means shit in what literary merit is concerned, where is the so-called Amazon.com link?
I expect you to blah-blah and trail off the topic on purpose of course, hating having your loonie stupidity challenged? _________________
What is a Democratic Socialist?
It is a Communist who is cowardly
enough to call himself what he's not, for fear of backlash on the Semantics. It is about the "Speed" of the "Revolution".
Like Hitler said "get them persuaded and us elected"
Caveat Emptor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Socialism DO NOT USE BIG BROTHER'S LIBERTARIAN POLICIES AND BELIEFS AGAINST HIS HIMSELF AND HIS FORUM
Debate? I only got insults from more or less everyone on here, especially you. Debate... You said I was wrong about allegory of the cave correlating with 1984, then insulted me. You did not say I was wring becasue of any thought you might have summoned. Although I do like your creativity with parrot picture, it is merely example of your juvenile insults, definitely funny, but without any merit worthy of a debate. You drag yourself down calling anything you said debating.
Some right wingers might like the book, I kind of doubt it, but I am positive no one would call it right wing diatribe, again you re funny at least!
Did you see the blurbs? Right wing diatribe readers/supporters they are not.
I'll debate you, if you can recal which point you held a position on and bring more thouhghts than insult.
Petrolithic era: I explained
occam's razor: explained
allegory in relation to 1984: explained
I don't remember any legit reasoning on your part. _________________ I think therefore I am
Debate? I only got insults from more or less everyone on here, especially you. Debate... You said I was wrong about allegory of the cave correlating with 1984, then insulted me. You did not say I was wring becasue of any thought you might have summoned. Although I do like your creativity with parrot picture, it is merely example of your juvenile insults, definitely funny, but without any merit worthy of a debate. You drag yourself down calling anything you said debating.
Some right wingers might like the book, I kind of doubt it, but I am positive no one would call it right wing diatribe, again you re funny at least!
Did you see the blurbs? Right wing diatribe readers/supporters they are not.
I'll debate you, if you can recal which point you held a position on and bring more thouhghts than insult.
Petrolithic era: I explained
occam's razor: explained
allegory in relation to 1984: explained
I don't remember any legit reasoning on your part.
Juvenile? Condescending tone will fix it eh? Nope....
Don't you get the impression that repeating your posts and making some vague if not illusory mention to 1984 just to bypass the Admin's cursory reading is nothing more than a futile attempt at spamming, after all, no one is gonna buy your book here or fool Google into high ranking you by doing some multiple link posting.
And to close the Southerner Separist Diatribe is both passe and cliche in extreme, you know people have the ability to learn from "Commericialized Paranoia", unless you're too deluded in ignorance to see it yourself. Try joining some Doomsday Cult, you'll feel more at home in the "We against the Evil/Corrupt/Stupid/Satanic World" sorta blah-blah-blah.
I am yet to see an independent sucker's gonna bother buying the book to provide an independent review other than yourself.
Dude save your academic pretentiousness for someone who cares...
PS: you have very poor writing in your posts, is your 'book' written in the same fashion, you silly feather-duster of a patriot. _________________
What is a Democratic Socialist?
It is a Communist who is cowardly
enough to call himself what he's not, for fear of backlash on the Semantics. It is about the "Speed" of the "Revolution".
Like Hitler said "get them persuaded and us elected"
Caveat Emptor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Socialism DO NOT USE BIG BROTHER'S LIBERTARIAN POLICIES AND BELIEFS AGAINST HIS HIMSELF AND HIS FORUM
Post #59341
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Posted: Sat 2009-08-29 16:04
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Your assumptions make you look stupid again. Obviously you have never created anything in your life value enough to put somewhere beside a webpage. Independent reviews I supplied you and you called it right wing diatribe. Do you know NGE. Do you know debora M.? You again have only insults and this time none are even funny or creative or wit any basis. Here, mock now that you have something to mock, the beginning of one chapter of 33, 34 if you count intro. An excerpt for you to attack in your profoundly predictable fashion. Check out progresivepress.com, it has a link about Ethan.
Of course no one will buy the book! No one reads books. People are like you, they just read web pages and cell phone texts.
THEY, THEM, AND THE ILLUMINATI
All types of institutions instill the “us” and “them” mentality based on devised divisions which are suitable to their ends. Individuals and institutions frequently label people based on preconceptions instead of their reaction to information; instead of how they think. People are people, the same here or there.
The only way to fairly and accurately understand people is according to how they individually react to information. The only people who are so different from the majority as to require separation from everybody else as “them”, are elitists. They are individuals who question information in order to better take advantage of others, regardless of resulting harm. We are all “us”, there is no “them”, until that is, one selfishly acquires and restricts information in order to exploit us. The only “them” are those who break the Golden Rule and harm others.
In what manner is God? This is a big question that leads to other big questions. The minority has always restricted the majority from this question and questions like it. Questioning the interpretation of God leads to questioning the interpretation of life and actuality in one’s life, including the workings of institutions. Questioning the interpretation of God is specifically allowed in the First Amendment for it enables and allows other important questions as well. It is a timeless question that rarely is actually answered, but always leads to other pertinent and timely questions.
They, them, and the illuminati are the elitists residing at the apex of the pyramid system exploiting everyone else below them. They will do anything to remain atop and in control of the status quo. They are institutionalized individuals, known and unknown, with so much power they are practically institutions unto themselves. They institutionalize information that is distributed and withhold other pertinent information.
Most elitists react to the mostly unpredictable orchestration of events and consign themselves to prosper from situations, no matter what they are. They, them and the illuminati are greedy individuals who question conditions and seek information to enhance their own agenda. The elite elitists make tactical decisions and actions to influence and create situations and events in which they can make gains.
There are the run of the mill elite, being they and them, elitists who behave with certain information or make actions before known events to reap the most reward. They and them are elitists with little power to manipulate events, but with better access to information than most to act on events. Then there are the illuminati. The illuminati orchestrate actions to reap selfish gains within the status quo with privileged information and wide powers to do so. The illuminati prepare for, and manifest situations they know that they will prosper from. Not only do the illuminati selfishly prepare and react, they also selfishly instigate. All illuminati are elitists, but not all elitists are illuminati. Illuminati elitists have the connections, information, powers and cold intentions to monopolize. They also believe that they are special and entitled to monopolize.
Illuminati is defined as a person or a group claiming special religious enlightenment. The illuminati, illuminated, enlightened or highly knowledgeable, are those with special information. They may possess actual exclusive information or they may just believe they hold special information. Another possibility is that they claim to have special information in order to influence the belief of others. Whether it is truth or make-believe is unimportant, as long they convince people there is some sort of exceptional information.
FACT: A 2006 UN study concluded that 1% of the world’s population owned between 40% - 50% of the world’s wealth. The same study concluded that the poorest 40% own 1% of the world’s wealth.
Wealth and money are no sure measure of elitists, though elitists surely seek to increase their measure of wealth and more specifically, power. In order to understand mentality it is exponentially more important to understand how one thinks rather than what one thinks. In the same way it is also more important to know how one obtains money and wealth, rather than what quantity one possesses. A decisive factor in understanding people may be how they got their money and not necessarily how much they have.
All elitists ask questions, a quality they share with patriots, and a likely reason for their occasional confusion and mix up. Patriots ask questions out loud in order to better understand actuality. Patriots ask questions in order to obtain and share information in seeking the truth. Elitists ask questions to themselves or quietly within their circle in order to obtain information for their selfish betterment. Elitists explicate complexity to make believe and however subtly, portray their possession of the complete story. Elitists seek and keep information in order to gain and maintain in the pyramid system. Elitists take advantage of, and captivate idiots, zealots, other elitists and patriots.
In the distant past, enlightenment of any kind pertained to religion and God. Most all information was regulated solely through religious institutions. Any scientific knowledge was either suppressed or sanctioned by churches or another institution. There was no classification of information as there is today. Information was not only regulated religiously, but all knowledge pertained to religion as well.
Today, science and faith are separated glories with occasional correspondence depending on one’s interpretation. In the past, individual scientific theories from simple observations were crushed if they did not correspond with institutional religious presentation. Official information was available through dogmatic institutions. Religious institutions not only verified the words of kings, they printed most of the books available. To question the official interpretation of God or the universe was blasphemous. They had the complete story and forcibly attempted to convince people that the truth did not change.
If people questioned the official institutional interpretation of God, the universe and Earth, they would make belief or ensure that others wouldn’t raise such questions by breaking the questioner. Ideas were disallowed, for ideas arise from questions, and no questions were needed because the churches, the kings and their corporate derivatives held all the answers. Ideas, and through them questions were an outright affront to religious institutions, and many who simply indirectly questioned reality were tortured or burned at the stake.
FACT: Beginning as early as 1022 and into the 16th century, countless heretics were burned alive and variously executed and tortured by the Roman Catholic Church and European Nations throughout the world.
Questioning established religious dogma and practices, including the geocentricity of the universe, could get one imprisoned, tortured and executed. Living outside of their institution was enough to reason for them to vanquish individuals. Being a different race or religion was reason enough for trial, torture, death or expulsion depending on the tolerations of the time and place.
During the inquisitions, people who did not believe in the holy trinity were punished as heretics. These Nontrinitarians were people of various beliefs who did not believe in the doctrine of one God being made of three persons; the Father, Son and the Holy Ghost. Michael Servetus’ effigy was burned and then Michael himself was burned at the stake in 1553, for writing books on Unitarian philosophy that stated Trinitarian beliefs were not biblical in origin and deceptions of certain Greek philosophies.
Inquisitions of people with different beliefs, appearances and inquisitive ideas took place throughout the world. The inquisitions were not inquiries, they killed people who inquired about alternatives or lived alternatively. During colonialism, inquisition or eliminations began in Peru in 1570 and ended in 1820.
Galileo Galilei published numerous books on scientific observations. In 1610 he published observations of planetary objects in orbit and in 1632 he published additional observations that stated the Earth revolved around the Sun. He was put on trial for heresy in 1633. He questioned the church’s cosmological theory, the geocentricity of Earth, proposing the Sun was at the center of the universe and not our Earth. His questions and answers were based on observation of reality, nothing more. He is credited with discovering moons around Jupiter and as the first person to observe sunspot activity. He spent the last years of his life under house arrest and ordered to disbelieve heliocentricity and was disallowed from publishing further material. The Sun revolved around the Earth and that was that.
“And yet it moves.”
Supposedly muttered by Galileo Galilei after recanting heliocentricity.
Secrets of the ancient illuminated may have been a lot of things. For people of the past there certainly were reasons to keep secrets, justifiable reasons. If some exclusive or common group kept information secret, it was partially due to the fact that they would otherwise be imprisoned, tortured and killed. Keeping secrets, even mundane secrets, in order to keep one’s head, is about as legitimate a reason as possible. It is not legitimate to kill people over information in order to keep secrets, but it might be legitimate to keep secrets in order to keep one’s head.
Today, it is more likely that one who keeps secrets is doing so to manipulate and prosper. There is no knowledge that has to be kept secret today; people should know the powers and dangers of fire. Only exploiters require secrets. Exploitation by certain institutions is kept secret by institutions. The Earth moves; institutions are corrupt, taxing and burdensome.
The knowledge of God and knowledge of the laws of the universe and nature were one and the same to the ancients and to other more recent and less institutionalized peoples. Pagans, the world over, concluded the Sun was God and that the solstices were among the most important holydays. This conclusion was based on observation of life cycles and seasons on the planet in relation to sunlight. Astronomy and geophysics were part of spirituality. Universal law and religious dogma were one and the same.
Institutions require common knowledge adhere to dogmatic doctrine or regimented religious interpretation. Where open mentality and responsible freedom reined, observations of nature and interpretations of God led to conclusions of religious correspondences with physical science. Where questioning was restricted, reality and the presentation of actuality differed. _________________ I think therefore I am
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time to bash some Illuminati
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Winston the third wrote:
Your assumptions make you look stupid again.
Obviously you have never created anything in your life value enough to put somewhere beside a webpage@.
Independent reviews I supplied you and you called it right wing diatribe. Do you know NGE. Do you know debora M.? You again have only insults and this time none are even funny or creative or wit any basis. Here, mock now that you have something to mock, the beginning of one chapter of 33, 34 if you count intro. An excerpt for you to attack in your profoundly predictable fashion. Check out progresivepress.com, it has a link about Ethan.
Of course no one will buy the book! No one reads books. People are like you, they just read web pages and cell phone texts.
THEY, THEM, AND THE ILLUMINATI
All types of institutions instill the “us” and “them” mentality based on devised divisions which are suitable to their ends. Individuals and institutions frequently label people based on preconceptions instead of their reaction to information; instead of how they think. People are people, the same here or there. 1
The only way to fairly and accurately understand people is according to how they individually react to information. The only people who are so different from the majority as to require separation from everybody else as “them”, are elitists. They are individuals who question information in order to better take advantage of others, regardless of resulting harm. We are all “us”, there is no “them”, until that is, one selfishly acquires and restricts information in order to exploit us. The only “them” are those who break the Golden Rule and harm others.
In what manner is God? This is a big question that leads to other big questions. ***
The minority has always restricted the majority from this question and questions like it. Questioning the interpretation of God leads to questioning the interpretation of life and actuality in one’s life, including the workings of institutions. Questioning the interpretation of God is specifically allowed in the First Amendment for it enables and allows other important questions as well. It is a timeless question that rarely is actually answered, but always leads to other pertinent and timely questions.
They, them, and the illuminati are the elitists residing at the apex of the pyramid system exploiting everyone else below them. They will do anything to remain atop and in control of the status quo. They are institutionalized individuals, known and unknown, with so much power they are practically institutions unto themselves. They institutionalize information that is distributed and withhold other pertinent information.
Most elitists react to the mostly unpredictable orchestration of events and consign themselves to prosper from situations, no matter what they are. They, them and the illuminati are greedy individuals who question conditions and seek information to enhance their own agenda. The elite elitists make tactical decisions and actions to influence and create situations and events in which they can make gains.
There are the run of the mill elite, being they and them, elitists who behave with certain information or make actions before known events to reap the most reward. They and them are elitists with little power to manipulate events, but with better access to information than most to act on events. Then there are the illuminati. The illuminati orchestrate actions to reap selfish gains within the status quo with privileged information and wide powers to do so. The illuminati prepare for, and manifest situations they know that they will prosper from. Not only do the illuminati selfishly prepare and react, they also selfishly instigate. All illuminati are elitists, but not all elitists are illuminati. Illuminati elitists have the connections, information, powers and cold intentions to monopolize. They also believe that they are special and entitled to monopolize.
Illuminati is defined as a person or a group claiming special religious enlightenment. The illuminati, illuminated, enlightened or highly knowledgeable, are those with special information. They may possess actual exclusive information or they may just believe they hold special information. Another possibility is that they claim to have special information in order to influence the belief of others. Whether it is truth or make-believe is unimportant, as long they convince people there is some sort of exceptional information.
FACT: A 2006 UN study concluded that 1% of the world’s population owned between 40% - 50% of the world’s wealth. The same study concluded that the poorest 40% own 1% of the world’s wealth. 101
Wealth and money are no sure measure of elitists, though elitists surely seek to increase their measure of wealth and more specifically, power. In order to understand mentality it is exponentially more important to understand how one thinks rather than what one thinks. In the same way it is also more important to know how one obtains money and wealth, rather than what quantity one possesses. A decisive factor in understanding people may be how they got their money and not necessarily how much they have.
All elitists ask questions, a quality they share with patriots, and a likely reason for their occasional confusion and mix up. Patriots ask questions out loud in order to better understand actuality. Patriots ask questions in order to obtain and share information in seeking the truth. Elitists ask questions to themselves or quietly within their circle in order to obtain information for their selfish betterment. Elitists explicate complexity to make believe and however subtly, portray their possession of the complete story. Elitists seek and keep information in order to gain and maintain in the pyramid system. Elitists take advantage of, and captivate idiots, zealots, other elitists and patriots.
In the distant past, enlightenment of any kind pertained to religion and God. Most all information was regulated solely through religious institutions. Any scientific knowledge was either suppressed or sanctioned by churches or another institution. There was no classification of information as there is today. Information was not only regulated religiously, but all knowledge pertained to religion as well.
Today, science and faith are separated glories with occasional correspondence depending on one’s interpretation. In the past, individual scientific theories from simple observations were crushed if they did not correspond with institutional religious presentation. Official information was available through dogmatic institutions. Religious institutions not only verified the words of kings, they printed most of the books available. To question the official interpretation of God or the universe was blasphemous. They had the complete story and forcibly attempted to convince people that the truth did not change.
If people questioned the official institutional interpretation of God, the universe and Earth, they would make belief or ensure that others wouldn’t raise such questions by breaking the questioner. Ideas were disallowed, for ideas arise from questions, and no questions were needed because the churches, the kings and their corporate derivatives held all the answers. Ideas, and through them questions were an outright affront to religious institutions, and many who simply indirectly questioned reality were tortured or burned at the stake.
FACT: Beginning as early as 1022 and into the 16th century, countless heretics were burned alive and variously executed and tortured by the Roman Catholic Church and European Nations throughout the world. -2
Questioning established religious dogma and practices, including the geocentricity of the universe, could get one imprisoned, tortured and executed. Living outside of their institution was enough to reason for them to vanquish individuals. Being a different race or religion was reason enough for trial, torture, death or expulsion depending on the tolerations of the time and place.
During the inquisitions, people who did not believe in the holy trinity were punished as heretics. These Nontrinitarians were people of various beliefs who did not believe in the doctrine of one God being made of three persons; the Father, Son and the Holy Ghost. Michael Servetus’ effigy was burned and then Michael himself was burned at the stake in 1553, for writing books on Unitarian philosophy that stated Trinitarian beliefs were not biblical in origin and deceptions of certain Greek philosophies.
Inquisitions of people with different beliefs, appearances and inquisitive ideas took place throughout the world. The inquisitions were not inquiries, they killed people who inquired about alternatives or lived alternatively. During colonialism, inquisition or eliminations began in Peru in 1570 and ended in 1820.
Galileo Galilei published numerous books on scientific observations. In 1610 he published observations of planetary objects in orbit and in 1632 he published additional observations that stated the Earth revolved around the Sun. He was put on trial for heresy in 1633. He questioned the church’s cosmological theory, the geocentricity of Earth, proposing the Sun was at the center of the universe and not our Earth. His questions and answers were based on observation of reality, nothing more. He is credited with discovering moons around Jupiter and as the first person to observe sunspot activity. He spent the last years of his life under house arrest and ordered to disbelieve heliocentricity and was disallowed from publishing further material. The Sun revolved around the Earth and that was that.
“And yet it moves.”
Supposedly muttered by Galileo Galilei after recanting heliocentricity.
Secrets of the ancient illuminated may have been a lot of things. For people of the past there certainly were reasons to keep secrets, justifiable reasons. If some exclusive or common group kept information secret, it was partially due to the fact that they would otherwise be imprisoned, tortured and killed. Keeping secrets, even mundane secrets, in order to keep one’s head, is about as legitimate a reason as possible. It is not legitimate to kill people over information in order to keep secrets, but it might be legitimate to keep secrets in order to keep one’s head.
Today, it is more likely that one who keeps secrets is doing so to manipulate and prosper. There is no knowledge that has to be kept secret today; people should know the powers and dangers of fire.
Only exploiters require secrets. Exploitation by certain institutions is kept secret by institutions.
The Earth moves; institutions are corrupt, taxing and burdensome. -3
The knowledge of God and knowledge of the laws of the universe and nature were one and the same to the ancients and to other more recent and less institutionalized peoples. Pagans, the world over, concluded the Sun was God and that the solstices were among the most important holydays. This conclusion was based on observation of life cycles and seasons on the planet in relation to sunlight.
Astronomy and geophysics werde part of spirituality. Universal law and religious dogma were one and the same.
Institutions require common knowledge adhere to dogmatic doctrine or regimented religious interpretation. &
Where open mentality and responsible freedom reined, observations of nature and interpretations of God led to conclusions of religious correspondences with physical science. +
Where questioning was restricted, reality and the presentation of actuality differed.4
@ you claiming ownership to that plagiarized verbiage? What is it 9 of 10 chapters dedicated at softening up the reader LOL
By making reference to actual scientific thinkers and splinter religious groups does not qualified the subsequent claims "to whatever" in the book to anything. For one instance this is the upteenth time you posted a reference to the book, however the gist and substance of your 'book' remains unknown. My sense tells me that you're simply softening up the reader for a ridiculous claim and request to action to see if they bait afterwards.
Dude the times when disagreing with the Church meant death a long-gone.
1- That's social dynamics, but does it work for Charity orgs?
2 - no shit religious totalitarianism.
3- Generalizations are fun; I wonder who controls the Fed Reserve blah-blah
"It is Jews or other minority cabal, blah-blah etc"
4 - Time to chase some Rockefeller shame he's dead since the late 70's.
& Truism not shit bro'.
Any more cliches under the mantle of "Free Thinking", devoid of critical and rational faculties you'd like to pass on?
101 - Incorrect use of statististics, wealth distribution is not being usedd in the same context for this "possession of secret knowledge", which cannot openly be surveyed.
*** dumb question! In a secular society (unless you live in the South of course) you don't assume something exists as a given or ask a rhetorical question based on a false premise.
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Secrets of the ancient illuminated may have been a lot of things. For people of the past there certainly were reasons to keep secrets, justifiable reasons. If some exclusive or common group kept information secret, it was partially due to the fact that they would otherwise be imprisoned, tortured and killed. Keeping secrets, even mundane secrets, in order to keep one’s head, is about as legitimate a reason as possible. It is not legitimate to kill people over information in order to keep secrets, but it might be legitimate to keep secrets in order to keep one’s head.
You either have 'it' or you don't; either way you're a wanker for playing cloak and dagger games. I value my time, but do you value everyone's else? I don't think so, then you're insulting my intelligence and insulting yours too.
Quote:
“And yet it moves.”
Supposedly muttered by Galileo Galilei after recanting heliocentricity.
Nice quote but you're neither a Scientist nor being persecuted by the Catholic Church, but if self-flattery by appearing in the same post makes you feel any better with a claim to authority to let this one go..."compared to Galileo -cool bananas".
I believe if you wanna deal with the Illuminati ring Tom Hanks.
Tell me you do you spend 90% of your time on conspiracy chasing? It must put you in a trance when something looks mysterious...."how to make millions by posting rehashed books in the internet: 10 secret tips". _________________
What is a Democratic Socialist?
It is a Communist who is cowardly
enough to call himself what he's not, for fear of backlash on the Semantics. It is about the "Speed" of the "Revolution".
Like Hitler said "get them persuaded and us elected"
Caveat Emptor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Socialism DO NOT USE BIG BROTHER'S LIBERTARIAN POLICIES AND BELIEFS AGAINST HIS HIMSELF AND HIS FORUM
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By making reference to actual scientific thinkers and splinter religious groups does not qualified the subsequent claims "to whatever" in the book to anything. For one instance this is the upteenth time you posted a reference to the book, however the gist and substance of your 'book' remains unknown. My sense tells me that you're simply softening up the reader for a ridiculous claim and request to action to see if they bait afterwards.
No comprehendo your first sentence.
As for your second sentence, I quote an exchange from 1984 between obrien and winston.
Is it true what it says? winston asks referrin to the book.
As description yes. The program it sets forth is nonsense....
I do theorize patriotism and oligarchical collectivism and someone like obrien would consider it nonsense.
A lot of history is long gone, and so, we should not explore it, you infer.
"which cannot openly be surveyed." My point exactly, it aint how much you got but how you got it.
I am absolutely no scientist or under persecution, and history happened a long time ago. You are good at pointing out the...
The rest of your english I can't understand, I sugest you work on comprehension, so that others might comprehend. Your spelling is grand on the other hand. _________________ I think therefore I am
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Winston the third wrote:
By making reference to actual scientific thinkers and splinter religious groups does not qualified the subsequent claims "to whatever" in the book to anything. For one instance this is the upteenth time you posted a reference to the book, however the gist and substance of your 'book' remains unknown.
My sense tells me that you're simply softening up the reader for a ridiculous claim and request to action to see if they bait afterwards.
No comprehendo your first sentence.
As for your second sentence, I quote an exchange from 1984 between obrien and winston.
Is it true what it says? winston asks referrin to the book.
As description yes. The program it sets forth is nonsense....
I do theorize patriotism and oligarchical collectivism and someone like obrien would consider it nonsense.
A lot of history is long gone, and so, we should not explore it, you infer.
"which cannot openly be surveyed." My point exactly, it aint how much you got but how you got it.
I am absolutely no scientist or under persecution, and history happened a long time ago. You are good at pointing out the...
The rest of your english I can't understand, I sugest you work on comprehension, so that others might comprehend. Your spelling is grand on the other hand.
You're simply intellectually vain, something tells me that quoted verbiage from the book and your posts suggest a different person. Fanciful concoction in marrying 'patriotism' and O.C. in 1984. That's pure propaganda, for the rest I don't give a shit.
Why is it that you posted the same thread so many times, is it persuasion through sheer overkill repetition? Well?
You're simply playing dumb with your pompous padding 'excerpt', how come the tone, grammar and style are so different from your actual posts? One would be led to think they are two different people, right.
I expect you to post more repeating threats on your 'book' as part of your spam mission in the board.
...and the big fucking all-revealing secret is.....? _________________
What is a Democratic Socialist?
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enough to call himself what he's not, for fear of backlash on the Semantics. It is about the "Speed" of the "Revolution".
Like Hitler said "get them persuaded and us elected"
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Winston the third wrote:
By making reference to actual scientific thinkers and splinter religious groups does not qualified the subsequent claims "to whatever" in the book to anything. For one instance this is the upteenth time you posted a reference to the book, however the gist and substance of your 'book' remains unknown.
My sense tells me that you're simply softening up the reader for a ridiculous claim and request to action to see if they bait afterwards.
No comprehendo your first sentence.
As for your second sentence, I quote an exchange from 1984 between obrien and winston.
Is it true what it says? winston asks referrin to the book.
As description yes. The program it sets forth is nonsense....
I do theorize patriotism and oligarchical collectivism and someone like obrien would consider it nonsense.
A lot of history is long gone, and so, we should not explore it, you infer.
"which cannot openly be surveyed." My point exactly, it aint how much you got but how you got it.
I am absolutely no scientist or under persecution, and history happened a long time ago. You are good at pointing out the...
The rest of your english I can't understand, I sugest you work on comprehension, so that others might comprehend. Your spelling is grand on the other hand.
You're simply intellectually vain, something tells me that quoted verbiage from the book and your posts suggest a different person. Fanciful concoction in marrying 'patriotism' and O.C. in 1984. That's pure propaganda, for the rest I don't give a shit.
Why is it that you posted the same thread so many times, is it persuasion through sheer overkill repetition? Well?
You're simply playing dumb with your pompous padding 'excerpt', how come the tone, grammar and style are so different from your actual posts? One would be led to think they are two different people, right.
I expect you to post more repeating threats on your 'book' as part of your spam mission in the board. _________________
What is a Democratic Socialist?
It is a Communist who is cowardly
enough to call himself what he's not, for fear of backlash on the Semantics. It is about the "Speed" of the "Revolution".
Like Hitler said "get them persuaded and us elected"
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intellectually vain. harhar. Or one might say lol.
You wanted to debate so i brought something old and something new. It is you who are repetitive. You are still arguing with yourself over who I am and not what I am saying. You are stuck on how I write and yet have nothing to say about what I wrote. You are repetitve, you are a constant ruin to this site as a whole. Homie, having many voices is something a writer might be gifted with, so thank you for pointing thta out and accusing me of intellectual vanity becasue I speak of Socratic correlation with orwell. Or what was it? This is pointless and by that I mean dull. _________________ I think therefore I am
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Winston the third wrote:
intellectually vain. harhar. Or one might say lol.
You wanted to debate so i brought something old and something new@.
It is you who are repetitive$.
You are still arguing with yourself over who I am and not what I am saying. You are stuck on how I write and yet have nothing to say about what I wrote.
You are repetitve, you are a constant ruin to this site as a whole.* +
Homie#, having many voices is something a writer might be gifted& with, so thank you for pointing thta out and accusing me of intellectual vanity becasue I speak of Socratic % correlation with orwell.
Or what was it?
This is pointless and by that I mean dull**.
@ you call that 'old and new' debate? Get over yourself, world's more complex than that you stupid clown.
Hey stupid, the social structure in Orwell's book is fictional, wanna correlate to the real social structure in the world, good luck with your mickey-mouse experiment, you'll find that's pretty much all tedious padding, silly spamming patriot, you can't tell fiction from sociological science. But then you're dispensing with the facts and complexity of social classes to make a false point to buttress the book on a premise.
And yeah you sound like two different people, you being the imbecile and the other the pompous windbag with sprinkled famous quotes and the like for extra credibility but if it gets you off...hey comparing yourself or the writer to notorious scientists and thinkers that's vain crap.
$ Yes multiple postings are boring, so why for the upteenth time did you post yet another thread on the O.C.? An answer please? You got memory problems INDEED!
*Speaking about your multiple spamming of the same topic on the book? Now's that repetitive shit, yeah you can't tell 'cause you're an idiot
& Voices is a different thing, you style suggest poor English, very different things.
# Wanna patronize me....already, it won't work.
% Self-flattery will get you nowhere, but if it makes you feel good...
+ it was fucked long before I did anything, that's some history for you, love a free forum to spam?
** speaking about the book's prose, yes I agree, may be you have memory lapses of dementia that make you forget that you posted the same crap only a few minutes ago in another section and thought no one would notice. _________________
What is a Democratic Socialist?
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Most books are fiction based on the nonfiction world we know. My book is nonfiction with a premise based on portions of the most popular and insidious fiction work of the last 100 years, 1984. Nonfiction while interpreting fiction. You're right what a crappy idea, nonfiction based on fiction. I mean practically no one does writes that way so it must be a bad idea. You're right I am a poor poet, thankfully perspective is ten times more important than grammar. You are right, you lack thoughtful debate, but you are right. Have fun, you're right, you win this debate on... who is right. _________________ I think therefore I am
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Again I bring you a new point, not that I am even talking to you anymore, but rather the undeclared observers that think you're a buthead and I but heads.
Carl Jung divided people into four types, not via imaginary institutional separations, but by individual mentality. Carl Jung, Socrates, and Orwell posited there are four types of people in the world. But not only them, many others throughout recorded time, have confirmed the same.
Throughout recorded time, and probably since the beginning of the Neolithic Age, there have been four kinds of people in the world, the idiots, zealots, elitists and patriots. They have been subdivided in many ways, they have borne countless different names and their relative numbers, as well as their attitude toward one another, have varied slightly from age to age, but the essential structure of society has never altered. Even after enormous upheavals and irrevocable changes, the same pattern has always reasserted itself, just as gravity sets equilibrium, however pushed one way or another.
The aims of the four groups are entirely reconcilable. Their behaviors are dissimilar, but their differences fit together. Idiots refuse information, zealots refute information, elitists misuse information and patriots distribute information. Despite dramatic alterations in the world and occasional fluctuations of people from one group to another, the shape of society, the formation of the groups remains the same just as planetary gravity shapes globes. _________________ I think therefore I am
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Winston the third wrote:
Again I bring you a new point,***
not that I am even talking to you anymore, but rather the undeclared observers that think you're a buthead and I but heads.
Carl Jung divided people into four types, not via imaginary institutional separations, but by individual mentality.
Carl Jung, Socrates, and Orwell posited there are four types of people in the world *****. But not only them, many others throughout recorded time, have confirmed the same.
Throughout recorded time, and probably since the beginning of the Neolithic Age, there have been four kinds of people in the world, the idiots, zealots, elitists and patriots. They have been subdivided in many ways, they have borne countless different names and their relative numbers, as well as their attitude toward one another, have varied slightly from age to age, but the essential structure of society has never altered.
Even after enormous upheavals and irrevocable changes **, the same pattern has always reasserted itself, just as gravity sets equilibrium **, however pushed one way or another.
The aims of the four groups are entirely reconcilable. Their behaviors are dissimilar**, but their differences fit together. Idiots refuse information, zealots refute information, elitists misuse information and patriots distribute information**.
Despite dramatic alterations in the world and occasional fluctuations of people **from one group to another, the shape of society, the formation of the groups remains ** the same just as planetary gravity shapes globes*.
Back to repeating yourself as in your original spam post and after so many months!
May be there is something you don't understand in the meaning of personality types and social classes -but if it gets you off to write the book as its main but incorrect premise, you've wasted a lot of time and your 'patriotic interpretation' of these four personality types, which has nothing to do with Myers-Briggs or Carl Jung's Personalities Archetypes, that's for those who are familiar with Jung and Myers-Briggs of course.
Patriotic Thunder and Fury meant to impress the ignorant, semi-educated and ill-informed I say, now piss off you idiot.
* pompous and bad rhetoric, how does gravity shape globes, LOL!
** are your arbitrary definitions pure idiosyncrasy? Make 'em as you go along indeed.
*** you said this crap before, nothing is new besides the poor choice of words as a way to get around giving a succint answer.
***** Orwell spoke of social classes not of mere groups of people in a different context from yours, that makes you either stupid or a liar. _________________
What is a Democratic Socialist?
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your ignorance is baffling and stifling. No wonder you are so angry, I would be terribly uncomfortable if trapped in/by your self.
I never said social classes, but distinction through mentality.
What does gravity have to do with globes? Why are all the celestial spheres globes? You suggest it has nothing to do with gravity? Harhar. No wonder you think I am intellectual snob, you're so ignorant fourth graders would feel bad making fun of you.
Ignorance? You referring about yourself because you have misused specific terminology and yes your choice of words is terrible, how did you get through primary school as a native English speaker is beyond me. Orwell intended Oligarchical Collectivism as discreet Social Classes not arbitrary group distinctions built on the labels placed by Ethan on an "Attitudinal" basis with his own made up classifications and criteria such as "spreading information, denying, refuting, hiding information" et cetera.
By the way, the word is 'Attitude' % not mentality and change globe for planets (paraphrasing archaic English stresses your plagiarism's choice of words going back five centuries) it is the wrong word, you silly goose, don't you know basic English?
You're an intellectual snob without the Intellectto match, I feel embarrassed by you.
& Angry? You wish, more like annoyed at your misuse of Science to build your mickey-mouse premises that separates and stereotypes people into four simple groups, it is building the buttress for the book, so if the reader doesn't know any better tough titties.
* Are you a fourth grader by any chance, because you're the one trying to impress here, I am just point out the errors in your premises.
+ tautology and changing the topic off to basic Astronomy as well, thinking I'd take the bait too. _________________
What is a Democratic Socialist?
It is a Communist who is cowardly
enough to call himself what he's not, for fear of backlash on the Semantics. It is about the "Speed" of the "Revolution".
Like Hitler said "get them persuaded and us elected"
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Actually I am just a man, no doctrate, no phd, no last name, no claim whatsoever of being doctor or anything other than imperfect individual. Though I did use the first paragraph of the oc as a starting point 3 is a world different than 4, so plagurism is out of the question, but you could call Penguin for me if you want. If they accused me of plagurism the book would blow up! Call em for me bra! And this is my book not orwell's , so I chose to write about mentality as a fair way to understand people. Orwell used the word attitude, so did I. He is such an buffoon, attitude. gravity shapes globes. You're right, total nonsense of a wanna be scientist, isn't much of history?
remember when you thought I was the mad professor, you ass, you assume all the time. Jung, based on my observations alone, not clinical mind you, but jung would have easily classified you by your continued thought process. I call you a zealot, becasue you believe what you think and not what you see.
good luck with the school year coming up, and when someone picks on you, you just ignore them ok lil buddy? _________________ I think therefore I am
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Winston the third wrote:
Actually I am just a man, no doctrate, no phd, no last name, no claim whatsoever of being doctor or anything other than imperfect individual.
Though I did use the first paragraph of the oc as a starting point 3 is a world different than 4, so plagurism is out of the question, but you could call Penguin for me if you want.
If they accused me of plagurism the book would blow up!
Call em for me bra! And this is my book not orwell's , so I chose to write about mentality as a fair way to understand people.
Orwell used the word attitude, so did I.
He is such an buffoon, attitude.
gravity shapes globes.
You're right, total nonsense of a wanna be scientist, isn't much of history?
remember when you thought I was the mad professor, you ass, you assume all the time. Jung, based on my observations alone, not clinical mind you, but jung would have easily classified you by your continued thought process.
I call you a zealot, becasue you believe what you think and not what you see &.
good luck with the school year coming up, and when someone picks on you, you just ignore them ok lil buddy?
*
I see you insist in stereotyping people at large to rationalize away disagreement with your set views, yourself as the 'chosen one' take the patriot stance, despite being proven wrong in your statements. Adding to this disagreement on facts; it is taken as being a zealotry -how stupid! You even admitted at being wrong on facts, but no matter, why change, blame the 'zealous attitude' instead, your attitude shows! Patriot ? nah just a purveryor of misinformation, anyone disagreeing can only fit into three categories left.
& I don't care for your fighting words, get your facts straight and improve your game.
There is nothing to be seen but poor English, mangled metaphors, shoddy grammar and a mishmash of facts with bad generalizations from someone's very poor education full of holes.
* Patronizing as always, yeah whatever you silly brat, rationalize that shithead. _________________
What is a Democratic Socialist?
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You are right I am being zealous, which admits to me being right about mentality. Chosen one, the matrix is played homie, if tat is what you think of me though, no wonder you try and chop me down.
Now we are getting somewhere, that is you saying I don't have the facts straight, what facts do you refer? The four people thing? Please be more specific, if it is the four, let me break it down a little then. throughout recorded time people have been distinguishable by their mentality, while institutions and institutionalized would prefer to distinguish them based on their nation of origin or, race, or wealth or education, instead of how they think, this is the only way to look at people that is fair. Please inform me of wich facts I have mixed up or wrong, for that is debate. Don't just say I am wron. Don't just say that gravity doesn't shape globes, tell me about it. elaborate, please. _________________ I think therefore I am
You are right I am being zealous, which admits to me being right about mentality.
Chosen one, the matrix is played homie +, if tat is what you think of me though, no wonder you try and chop me down CD.
Now we are getting somewhere, that is you saying I don't have the facts straight, what facts do you refer?* The four people thing?**
Please be more specific, if it is the four, let me break it down a little then.
throughout recorded time people have been distinguishable by their mentality&, while institutions and institutionalized would prefer to distinguish them based on their nation of origin or, race, or wealth or education,
instead of how they think, this is the only way to look at people that is fair. @
Please inform me of wich facts I have mixed up or wrong, for that is debate. DD
Don't just say I am wron DD
Don't just say that gravity doesn't shape globes, tell me about it. ***
elaborate, please.
I suggest you consult a dictionary on Sociology for the terminology you're using instead of making up definitions on your own, that's right YOUR OWN.
* I have already said it, my expression is clearer than yours, so it is not my problem if you don't get so I won't repeat myself.
** Attitudes you idiot and your stupid genralizations.
*** If you know then you should do the explaining right hence you're the 'patriot' correct?
The burden of proof is on you given that you're out to make the statement, pasting links is not valid as they don't show your understanding, so take that for your 'globes' ignoramus.
& Your ignorant opinion at best, just your ignorant opinion nothing more, neither Science or Wisdom, is that broken down enough for you.
@ You're plain ignorant and a simpleton, so you should be metted the same treatment for your ignorance.
DD Playing dumb misunderstanding again, that's proof that your IQ can go beyond ZERO-LOL
+ There is no Matrix to exit out of, metaphorical, rhetorical or otherwise so fuck off 'homie', GET OVER IT.
CD You talk shit, were you expecting 5 Star Treatment, duh!
PS: your punctuation is terrible, is your book like that too?
-Time for patriot to repost the same old O.C. question yet again. _________________
What is a Democratic Socialist?
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Winston the third wrote:
You are right I am being zealous, which admits to me being right about mentality.
Chosen one, the matrix is played homie, if tat is what you think of me though, no wonder you try and chop me down.
Now we are getting somewhere, that is you saying I don't have the facts straight, what facts do you refer? The four people thing?
Please be more specific, if it is the four, let me break it down a little then. throughout recorded time people have been distinguishable by their mentality, while institutions and institutionalized would prefer to distinguish them based on their nation of origin or, race, or wealth or education, instead of how they think,
this is the only way to look at people that is fair.
Please inform me of wich facts I have mixed up or wrong, for that is debate.
Don't just say I am wron.
Don't just say that gravity doesn't shape globes, tell me about it. elaborate, please.
To put my opinion of you in a more succint form:
You fathead wanker, repeating yourself over such a large time stretch indicates mental illness of a wanna-be cult leader. _________________
What is a Democratic Socialist?
It is a Communist who is cowardly
enough to call himself what he's not, for fear of backlash on the Semantics. It is about the "Speed" of the "Revolution".
Like Hitler said "get them persuaded and us elected"
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carldiesturmer wrote:
To put my opinion of you in a more succint form:
You fathead wanker, repeating yourself over such a large time stretch indicates mental illness of a wanna-be cult leader.
Now *That's* a highly developed intellectual argument if there ever was one! Such a serious statement of Ignorance (not be confused with stupidity) has never been uttered!
Poor Mr. Winston. He only tried to present an argument for the validity of The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism as a serious analysis of the structure of society and all he gets for his efforts is a royal ad hominem attack. A true victory of thugism over serious debate.
You are to be commended for your brutish, unthinking and dogmatic approach, Mr. carldiesturmer.
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trippyhippy420 wrote:
ppl like carl lead me to disreust the merits of democracy
there is no point id "debating" him+, $
as the proverb goes you can lead a horse to water but cant make him drink
carl will surley die of dehydration*
First you have to have something to debate, NOT clarifying your ignorant confusion of political labels passing off as debate, take that ignoramus.
+ Not Likee Democracy, that leaves us with Elitist or outright tyrannical?
Debate YES, teaching you basic political doctrines is not my job, why confuse the two?
In America political debate amounts to drive the point home to losers that they LOST the game but refuse to come to terms with it, because it offends their personal pride.
I suggest Conservative Group Therapy plus guns
+It goes something like this;
"to vote:
you must first post in Standard English Grammar and Punctuation" in which case for your 'Apartheid Democracy' you don't vote because of illiteracy. LOL The joke's on you for pretending to be smart while sounding like an idiot.
$ Perhaps it helps with sms text-messaging style when posting, you're showing your high class, gotta save some cents here LOL!.
* proverbs my foot! An example of canned thinking for lazy people, am I suppose to feel bad or something? YOUR Granny! _________________
What is a Democratic Socialist?
It is a Communist who is cowardly
enough to call himself what he's not, for fear of backlash on the Semantics. It is about the "Speed" of the "Revolution".
Like Hitler said "get them persuaded and us elected"
Caveat Emptor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Socialism DO NOT USE BIG BROTHER'S LIBERTARIAN POLICIES AND BELIEFS AGAINST HIS HIMSELF AND HIS FORUM
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Jefferson Davis wrote:
carldiesturmer wrote:
To put my opinion of you in a more succint form:
You fathead wanker, repeating yourself over such a large time stretch indicates mental illness of a wanna-be cult leader.
Now *That's* a highly developed intellectual argument if there ever was one! %
Such a serious statement of Ignorance (not be confused with stupidity) has never been uttered! &
Poor Mr. Winston.
He only tried to present an argument for the validity of The Theory and Practice of [b]Oligarchical Collectivism as a serious analysis of the structure of society $ and all he gets for his efforts is a royal ad hominem attack.* [/b]
A true victory of thugism over serious debate.%%%%
You are to be commended for your brutish, unthinking and dogmatic approach, Mr. carldiesturmer.
Dear fellow traveller, you missed that guy's numerous posts with the same post pasted-in.
Fuckwit~
$ Confusing fiction with Fact, are you his cult-follower or something?
& I know you're referring to 'Winston', he should know better, he figures we are gullible dummies here and will unquestionably accept his BS on face value, which brings the point: Who are you any way? LOL
* You get what you truly deserve, no padding here. Is he in the touchy-feely primary school class kid.
%%%% The argument's over his classification was longed-ended and debunked, posting repeats of the same shit over and over, does not constitute 'debate' buddy, so why confuse the two, tell me you 'debate' or simply bicker about someone's poor use of English, Sociology and Definitions and have the poster flakked for his poverty of knowledge while spamming a forum to promote his shithouse 'book'. That crap constitutes 'debate' for you. You're full of it.
% You debate with stupidity and idiocy you waste your time, simple, bullet to the head to Patriot's generalization of 6 billion people into four groups, which for all intents and purposes amounts to his stupid personal opinion, despite the magnanimity of his literary flourish in O.C. from 1984. _________________
What is a Democratic Socialist?
It is a Communist who is cowardly
enough to call himself what he's not, for fear of backlash on the Semantics. It is about the "Speed" of the "Revolution".
Like Hitler said "get them persuaded and us elected"
Caveat Emptor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Socialism DO NOT USE BIG BROTHER'S LIBERTARIAN POLICIES AND BELIEFS AGAINST HIS HIMSELF AND HIS FORUM
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Is Davis repetitious like Winston, let's see
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Jefferson Davis wrote:
carldiesturmer wrote:
To put my opinion of you in a more succint form:
You fathead wanker, repeating yourself over such a large time stretch indicates mental illness of a wanna-be cult leader.
Now *That's* a highly developed intellectual argument if there ever was one! Such a serious statement of Ignorance (not be confused with stupidity) has never been uttered!
You're giving utter BS an over-falluting claim to intellectual credit, it doesn't deserve. Oh whatta farce!
Which says that you're as uncritical as 'Winston' is and thus ignorant and stupid or both, because you praise the nonsense.
_________________
What is a Democratic Socialist?
It is a Communist who is cowardly
enough to call himself what he's not, for fear of backlash on the Semantics. It is about the "Speed" of the "Revolution".
Like Hitler said "get them persuaded and us elected"
Caveat Emptor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Socialism DO NOT USE BIG BROTHER'S LIBERTARIAN POLICIES AND BELIEFS AGAINST HIS HIMSELF AND HIS FORUM
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You have nothing but dumbass insults and others have noticed. You make ignorant assumptions about intention, education and all sorts of vague, confused preconceptions that you have. I no longer understand what you are saying. You are the only one spouting nonsense, you are the only one speaking of violence, cults and delusions of a paranoid. You have eliminated any chance of intellectual discourse and it is you who are repetiive. Onlookers to the discourse have observed, noted and stated you are a duntdadunt. Reread what you yourself wrote.
May I refer you to a writer's words we all admire.
1. Never use a metaphor, simile or other figure of speech which you are used to seeing in print.
2. Never use a long word where a short one will do.
3. If it is possible to cut a word out, always cut it out.
4. Never use the passive where you can use the active.
5. Never use a foreign phrase, a scientific word or a jargon word if you can think of an everyday English equivalent.
6. Break any of these rules sooner than say anything outright barbarous. _________________ I think therefore I am
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Jefferson Davis wrote:
carldiesturmer wrote:
To put my opinion of you in a more succint form:
You fathead wanker, repeating yourself over such a large time stretch indicates mental illness of a wanna-be cult leader.
Now *That's* a highly developed intellectual argument if there ever was one! Such a serious statement of Ignorance (not be confused with stupidity) has never been uttered!
Poor Mr. Winston. He only tried to present an argument for the validity of The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism as a serious analysis of the structure of society and all he gets for his efforts is a royal ad hominem attack. A true victory of thugism over serious debate.
You are to be commended for your brutish, unthinking and dogmatic approach, Mr. carldiesturmer.
Oh, I love it! The first act of censorship on a board that claims to have no censorship!
What's this world coming to when one has to click a box to read a post?
Nice touch, though. It show your true colors! ++Good on your part!*
* I do appreciate the attention you brought to my post with that little touch and take it as a compliment. Nice work! Be careful that you don't exemplify the very thing you claim to vilify.
Ironically, I could argue your points in true Orwellian fashion better than you can. Ignorance is Strength! In fact, it would be really fun to do so.
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Jefferson Davis wrote:
Jefferson Davis wrote:
carldiesturmer wrote:
To put my opinion of you in a more succint form:
You fathead wanker, repeating yourself over such a large time stretch indicates mental illness of a wanna-be cult leader.
Now *That's* a highly developed intellectual argument if there ever was one! Such a serious statement of Ignorance (not be confused with stupidity) has never been uttered!
Poor Mr. Winston. He only tried to present an argument for the validity of The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism as a serious analysis of the structure of society and all he gets for his efforts is a royal ad hominem attack. A true victory of thugism over serious debate.
You are to be commended for your brutish, unthinking and dogmatic approach, Mr. carldiesturmer.
Oh, I love it! The first act of censorship on a board that claims to have no censorship!
What's this world coming to when one has to click a box to read a post?
Nice touch, though. It show your true colors! ++Good on your part!*
* I do appreciate the attention you brought to my post with that little touch and take it as a compliment. Nice work! Be careful that you don't exemplify the very thing you claim to vilify.
Ironically, I could argue your points in true Orwellian fashion better than you can. Ignorance is Strength! In fact, it would be really fun to do so.
I think this is the part where you both pull each other's tiny baby dickies and come on each other LOL -stupid tag team of ignorant imbeciles. _________________
What is a Democratic Socialist?
It is a Communist who is cowardly
enough to call himself what he's not, for fear of backlash on the Semantics. It is about the "Speed" of the "Revolution".
Like Hitler said "get them persuaded and us elected"
Caveat Emptor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Socialism DO NOT USE BIG BROTHER'S LIBERTARIAN POLICIES AND BELIEFS AGAINST HIS HIMSELF AND HIS FORUM
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carldiesturmer wrote:
Jefferson Davis wrote:
Jefferson Davis wrote:
carldiesturmer wrote:
To put my opinion of you in a more succint form:
You fathead wanker, repeating yourself over such a large time stretch indicates mental illness of a wanna-be cult leader.
Now *That's* a highly developed intellectual argument if there ever was one! Such a serious statement of Ignorance (not be confused with stupidity) has never been uttered!
Poor Mr. Winston. He only tried to present an argument for the validity of The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism as a serious analysis of the structure of society and all he gets for his efforts is a royal ad hominem attack. A true victory of thugism over serious debate.
You are to be commended for your brutish, unthinking and dogmatic approach, Mr. carldiesturmer.
Oh, I love it! The first act of censorship on a board that claims to have no censorship!
What's this world coming to when one has to click a box to read a post?
Nice touch, though. It show your true colors! ++Good on your part!*
* I do appreciate the attention you brought to my post with that little touch and take it as a compliment. Nice work! Be careful that you don't exemplify the very thing you claim to vilify.
Ironically, I could argue your points in true Orwellian fashion better than you can. Ignorance is Strength! In fact, it would be really fun to do so.
I think this is the part where you both pull each other's tiny baby dickies and come on each other LOL -stupid tag team of ignorant imbeciles.
Bravo! Yet another wonderful example of intellectual power on your part! Brilliant response! You'd better harness your mental powers, save all that energy in a battery and maybe you will have enough power to lightly toast a slice of bread in about 20,000 years!
You may now display your intellectual prowess by calling me a poopy head and telling me to piss off. I promise you, my feelings won't be hurt.
P.S.: That hat you are wearing not only looks like a rat cage but it also makes your arse look fat.
Can I start a thread where everyone can insult each other without restrictions just for the fun of it? Maybe after everyone gets their ya-yas out there can be some real conversation around here. Oh, and some good insults to store up for later use.
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Jefferson Davis wrote:
carldiesturmer wrote:
Jefferson Davis wrote:
Jefferson Davis wrote:
carldiesturmer wrote:
To put my opinion of you in a more succint form:
You fathead wanker, repeating yourself over such a large time stretch indicates mental illness of a wanna-be cult leader.
Now *That's* a highly developed intellectual argument if there ever was one! Such a serious statement of Ignorance (not be confused with stupidity) has never been uttered!
Poor Mr. Winston. He only tried to present an argument for the validity of The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism as a serious analysis of the structure of society and all he gets for his efforts is a royal ad hominem attack. A true victory of thugism over serious debate.
You are to be commended for your brutish, unthinking and dogmatic approach, Mr. carldiesturmer.
Oh, I love it! The first act of censorship on a board that claims to have no censorship!#
What's this world coming to when one has to click a box to read a post?
Nice touch, though. It show your true colors! ++Good on your part!*
* I do appreciate the attention you brought to my post with that little touch and take it as a compliment. Nice work! Be careful that you don't exemplify the very thing you claim to vilify.
Ironically, I could argue your points in true Orwellian fashion better than you can. Ignorance is Strength! In fact, it would be really fun to do so.
r
I think this is the part where you both pull each other's tiny baby dickies and come on each other LOL -stupid tag team of ignorant imbeciles.
Bravo! Yet another wonderful example of intellectual power on your part! Brilliant response! You'd better harness your mental powers, save all that energy in a battery and maybe you will have enough power to lightly toast a slice of bread in about 20,000 years!**
You may now display your intellectual prowess by calling me a poopy head and telling me to piss off. I promise you, my feelings won't be hurt.*
P.S.: That hat you are wearing not only looks like a rat cage but it also makes your arse look fat.***
Can I start a thread where everyone can insult each other without restrictions just for the fun of it? %
Maybe after everyone gets their ya-yas out there can be some real conversation around here.@
Oh, and some good insults to store up for later use.@@
Lighten up dude, you take things too personally @@@.
* now that you mentioned that, I think they are tender and swollen LOL!.
** you can't argue higher intellectual ground because you are trying to fuse National Socialism with US Liberalism as a gimmick and that's purely wrong where political ideology concerned, you look stupid for it, just thought I call your attention to your recycle-and-paste second hand posters tiny effort.
*** what is that supposed to mean, and I am pretty fit by the way. That talk is so bitchy LOL
@ you mean having a conversation when you try to convince someone where US Liberalism = National Socialism? That's like George Bush linking up Al-Qaida with IraQ and Saddam Hussein and guilt for 911 Terrorism.
@@ The good folk left long time ago driven away by the mentally schizophrenic Mephistopheles and his cadre of social misfits Asperger sufferers, so why would you want to have a conversation with more idiots? Not very smart eh or an idiot like them by making preposterous political comparisons.
@@@ that's what you think, I don't.
# don't confuse lack of censorship with utter and grievous deleriction of duty, that's misrepresenting intent and claims and a dose of Libertarian Absurdism, the ideal festering ground for idiots, perverts, mentally ill cretins to start a colony. _________________
What is a Democratic Socialist?
It is a Communist who is cowardly
enough to call himself what he's not, for fear of backlash on the Semantics. It is about the "Speed" of the "Revolution".
Like Hitler said "get them persuaded and us elected"
Caveat Emptor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Socialism DO NOT USE BIG BROTHER'S LIBERTARIAN POLICIES AND BELIEFS AGAINST HIS HIMSELF AND HIS FORUM
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carl you don't even make sense anymore. you're a jackass. you make me crack up, you try to portray yourself as know it all, but you ain't even makin sense no more. eat what you like to write about. _________________ I think therefore I am
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carldiesturmer wrote:
Jefferson Davis wrote:
carldiesturmer wrote:
Jefferson Davis wrote:
Jefferson Davis wrote:
carldiesturmer wrote:
To put my opinion of you in a more succint form:
You fathead wanker, repeating yourself over such a large time stretch indicates mental illness of a wanna-be cult leader.
Now *That's* a highly developed intellectual argument if there ever was one! Such a serious statement of Ignorance (not be confused with stupidity) has never been uttered!
Poor Mr. Winston. He only tried to present an argument for the validity of The Theory and Practice of Oligarchical Collectivism as a serious analysis of the structure of society and all he gets for his efforts is a royal ad hominem attack. A true victory of thugism over serious debate.
You are to be commended for your brutish, unthinking and dogmatic approach, Mr. carldiesturmer.
Oh, I love it! The first act of censorship on a board that claims to have no censorship!#
What's this world coming to when one has to click a box to read a post?
Nice touch, though. It show your true colors! ++Good on your part!*
* I do appreciate the attention you brought to my post with that little touch and take it as a compliment. Nice work! Be careful that you don't exemplify the very thing you claim to vilify.
Ironically, I could argue your points in true Orwellian fashion better than you can. Ignorance is Strength! In fact, it would be really fun to do so.
r
I think this is the part where you both pull each other's tiny baby dickies and come on each other LOL -stupid tag team of ignorant imbeciles.
Bravo! Yet another wonderful example of intellectual power on your part! Brilliant response! You'd better harness your mental powers, save all that energy in a battery and maybe you will have enough power to lightly toast a slice of bread in about 20,000 years!**
You may now display your intellectual prowess by calling me a poopy head and telling me to piss off. I promise you, my feelings won't be hurt.*
P.S.: That hat you are wearing not only looks like a rat cage but it also makes your arse look fat.***
Can I start a thread where everyone can insult each other without restrictions just for the fun of it? %
Maybe after everyone gets their ya-yas out there can be some real conversation around here.@
Oh, and some good insults to store up for later use.@@
Lighten up dude, you take things too personally @@@.
* now that you mentioned that, I think they are tender and swollen LOL!.
** you can't argue higher intellectual ground because you are trying to fuse National Socialism with US Liberalism as a gimmick and that's purely wrong where political ideology concerned, you look stupid for it, just thought I call your attention to your recycle-and-paste second hand posters tiny effort.
*** what is that supposed to mean, and I am pretty fit by the way. That talk is so bitchy LOL
@ you mean having a conversation when you try to convince someone where US Liberalism = National Socialism? That's like George Bush linking up Al-Qaida with IraQ and Saddam Hussein and guilt for 911 Terrorism.
@@ The good folk left long time ago driven away by the mentally schizophrenic Mephistopheles and his cadre of social misfits Asperger sufferers, so why would you want to have a conversation with more idiots? Not very smart eh or an idiot like them by making preposterous political comparisons.
@@@ that's what you think, I don't.
# don't confuse lack of censorship with utter and grievous deleriction of duty, that's misrepresenting intent and claims and a dose of Libertarian Absurdism, the ideal festering ground for idiots, perverts, mentally ill cretins to start a colony.
Now we're getting somewhere!
The exact 'National Socialis' I accuse Obama of is exactly the same 'National Socialism' that Bush 1 & 2 are also guilty of. It's been going on so long, but Obama now owns it all. And I see no change, not even the 'change' he promised. All I see is exactly the same crap as before - meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
I do comment you for this comment:
Quote:
The good folk left long time ago driven away by the mentally schizophrenic Mephistopheles and his cadre of social misfits Asperger sufferers, so why would you want to have a conversation with more idiots? Not very smart eh or an idiot like them by making preposterous political comparisons.
LOL! Having converstations with Apsperer victims is a hoot! Idiots are fun to abuse and occasionally you see through their collective affliction and gain some insight into the logic of idiocy.
It's even more fun if the bashings aren't taken personally. I've got friends who span the political spectrum and when we really get into it, it's totally hysterical and mostly enlightening. More often than not, the reality is that regardless of the political tags attached to a particular person the only difference for the most part is the terminology used.
The problem with ideological tags (Communist, Socialist, Capitalist, etc.,,,) is that the tags get in the way and the tags promote dogmatism. When one becomes dogmatic one beliefs become unassailable to logic and reason (white male constructs designed to oppress the 'brown' people /sarcasm) and become a religion. Jesus died for his own sins... _________________ #1 Though Criminal
"Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power."
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Take your counsel to heart and use it. _________________
What is a Democratic Socialist?
It is a Communist who is cowardly
enough to call himself what he's not, for fear of backlash on the Semantics. It is about the "Speed" of the "Revolution".
Like Hitler said "get them persuaded and us elected"
Caveat Emptor
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabian_Socialism DO NOT USE BIG BROTHER'S LIBERTARIAN POLICIES AND BELIEFS AGAINST HIS HIMSELF AND HIS FORUM
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carldiesturmer wrote:
Take your counsel to heart and use it.
I do so all the time. But that doesn't necessarily imply that I won't occasionally go out of my way to be a horse's ass if the results won't be sufficiently entertaining. _________________ #1 Though Criminal
"Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power."
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