Concentration Camps for the US?

Molon Labe · Posted: Wed 2006-03-01 18:44

Again another step towards a Regime change in America.

Over the past few months more and more bypassing of laws and acting like the Exeuctive branch of the US Governemnt is above the law or in many cases has the authority under the US Constitution to do almost any activity.

A similar situtation arrose when Hitler pushed through several acts allowing the top position to gain broad powers of enforcement and rule making powers. i.e. Enabling Act. well the time has come that the Executive branch of the US governemnt is claiming the same powers and acutally implementing several key elements to achieve the same goal as Germany.

This topic is dedicated to this one issue of many.
I speak of the Concentration camps being made by Haliburton and many other camps being created this year and the next fiscial year.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/1/29/175431/539

http://www.halliburton.com/default/main/halliburton/eng/news/source_files/news.jsp?newsurl=/default/main/halliburton/eng/news/source_files/press_release/2006/kbrnws_012406.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enabling_Act

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/pages/camps.html

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2006/010206detentioncamps.htm

http://cleveland.indymedia.org/news/2006/02/18673.php

need i say more..... We all know what the camps are going to be used for. Some reports state over 3 million people can be held in all the camps in america.... Those camps are empty as of today.
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Ingsoc · Posted: Wed 2006-03-01 18:53

I don't see why you so shoked and suprise, it's not the first time it's happening in the course of American history, of course it's was not called concentration camps but internment camps or reservations.
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Molon Labe · Posted: Wed 2006-03-01 18:55

Yes but those were for possible sympathizers to Japan and 'indians' that were 'savages' as understood in that time frame. These camps that are being produced are for Americans...with no other classfication as 'you do not worship the government'.
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Ingsoc · Posted: Wed 2006-03-01 18:59

Molon Labe · Posted: Wed 2006-03-01 19:08

I mean that those times were 'rationalized' for thier ethinic background like you said, but that does not make it right. Have you read the book from a Japannesse America that pacakages the camps as good and helpful? ( i saw her on Cspan about a year ago and just was disgusted) The difference im tyring to make here is that all americans are subject to this. This will not effect ethinic backgrounds but political ideas?!

I disagree with the camps in WW2 and the reservations and trail of tears. Those were done when ignorance was great, possible at the same levels of to today. By this i mean ideas are more dangerous then my skin color, thus we will be 'classfied as second class citizens' based on our dissent rather then a ignorant racist pretext.
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Zoon · Posted: Wed 2006-03-01 19:22

AceBrock · Posted: Wed 2006-03-01 19:25

Yeah but there are still poor reservations were everyone is suffering. Not every reservation has casinos.
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Ingsoc · Posted: Wed 2006-03-01 19:36

Molon Labe · Posted: Wed 2006-03-01 19:44

What do you think the intent of the Camps that have been built and are planned for 2006 adn 2007 in the US are for? Keep in mind they will hold over 3 millon people.
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Ingsoc · Posted: Wed 2006-03-01 20:06

AceBrock · Posted: Wed 2006-03-01 20:10

IF the US goes on another military campaign?
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Ingsoc · Posted: Wed 2006-03-01 20:20

Big Brother · Posted: Wed 2006-03-01 22:43

This news is very interesting indeed.

I suspect one of the reasons for this little project has to do with the $385 million that is being funneled to Halliburton. (as if they haven't already received enough profit thanks to this administration). It could just be that the government is paying them to dig a hole and fill it back up again -- a do-nothing project that serves no real purpose, yet will make the stockholders pay-off a little larger this year.

But the aren't just digging holes, are they. I don't mean to sound paranoid, but the question as to why our country needs these detention centers is a legitimate one -- especially when their excuse is that we need the camps in case of an "Immigration Emergency".

Now, I am certainly no fan of illegal immigration, but this has got to be one of the lamest excuses I have ever heard. What "immigration emergency" are they fucking talking about? Are they expecting 3 million Mexicans to cross the border at one time? Are they expecting the entire Cuban population to suddenly strap on life vests and start swimming for American shores?

Do "they" know something we don't? Why is it necessary to build all these camps now? If an emergency were to arrive, how long do you think it would take to string some barbed wire across a field and build a few gun towers? Either the government is afraid some major catastrophe is impending, or they just like squandering tax-payer dollars (squandering it in the direction of Halliburton).

News about detention camps are bad enough, but especially since this government (both parties) don't seem to have any qualms about putting people in cages. Does anybody remember the Freedom Cages which are now used to contain protestors and the Democratic and Republican national conventions?

I just can't wait until some pinhead in this administration starts calling these detention centers "Freedom Camps".

Mad

Thanks HK for reminding us that not all conspiracy theories are completely baseless.
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Molon Labe · Posted: Thu 2006-03-02 04:37

Yes thank you BB for helping provide pictures of some camps. I am not as computer savy as some. Yes i took of my tin foil hat when i was reading these articles and listening on the radio. Here is a few more links. I believe i quoted the military link before but it serves its purpose again.

http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/gulags_for_american_citizens_in_final_stages.htm

http://www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/r210_35.pdf

Also if the no fly zone list is applied to these camps i wonder how that will fair, especially since many us citizens are on that list have no ties to terrorism. We have discussed why members are on that list b/c of a system BB brought up before.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/14/AR2006021402125.html

I personally believe that list will sky rocket in the coming weeks because of open discussions in the senate committes between the executive agencies and Congress. They wish to seek out any dissent. On a similar note does anyone remember the plan that Florida tried to start up a few months ago. I remember the 'in your face' that you must supply ID on demand from the police anytime they want it for any reason. Ill be showing them my Constitution 4th amendment pocket size addition when they ask me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rex_84

This link distrubs me greatly that our government under Regan believed that the Constitution can be waved away at the presidents will(can we say civil war would insue?) and that the president would be the law maker and judiciary then? That whole idea is very scary, but even more is that this is openly talked about in the current administration that the next terrorist attack 'anything goes' ideology is being pushed on the American people. I guess im in the minority when i say that 'no matter what you can not wave away the Constitution" Thus the motto of New Hampshire is one i adhere to "Live Free or Die"

I find the use of Camps to be rather disturbing to say the least. Now a little conspiracy i have been pondering for the last few weeks; i would like to share it with this board and see if anyone else agrees or disagrees and why.

Conspiracy

I have been listening to the various executive branch agencies claiming the president can 'contiune to enforce the Patriot Act even if it is not renewed" and "The NSA, Port deal and various other activities of our current Executive branch" are immune from review and are granted to the President in the Constitution. I believe the phrase "Commander and Chief" is used to allow this to happen and another clause.

Now with that previous paragraph in mind, the Current Patriot Act will contain various infringments on liberty again and proceed to dismantle the Constituion's bill of rights further. We now add the Katrina response of Gun confiscations and removal of persons' from thier property with extreme force. Also the ever growing 'free speech zones only' protest sites and the Stop and ask for ID with out any probable cause in cities to 'show the citizens the local cops are fighting terrorism". Now throw in the Camps and you have a pre nazi gernmany with all the bells and whistles that technology will bring allow the US to stay in control completely. I.E. RFID tags and ID cards, GPS tracking i.e. Onstar Cameras every where and a total lock down on any movement.

With all this in mind i seem to believe the elements of tyranny is in place but we are waiting for the cataylist to start the ball rolling.
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Big Brother · Posted: Thu 2006-03-09 02:17

Just following up on this "Google subpoena" thing. It looks like the hearing will take place in 5 days.

walls · Posted: Thu 2006-03-09 16:59

yitzchak · Posted: Wed 2006-05-10 20:02

Hey Ingsoc... Ever heard of tu quoque? Do you think that because internement camps and reservations were wrong, therefore setting up ANY FORM of concentration camp is not ALSO wrong? Please review logic 101.

Ingsoc · Posted: Wed 2006-05-10 21:07

Molon Labe · Posted: Thu 2006-05-11 14:58